164. A bright Friday at Edison demo party 2026

The Ericade Radio Network. We are live from the Edison Demo Party with DJ Daemon and Coreus.

The weather is warm, the drinks are cold, and the water is just right as we get ready to do one of the highlights of the year. At least if you have the f fondness of old hardware.

Coming to you from the heart of Stockholm is the Edison 2026 Demo Party, which is an ambitious two-day digital art festival where a whole bunch of highly skilled people with computers have gathered on a boat to create and celebrate digital creations and art.

It never ceases to amaze me how much limitation breeds creativity.

Absolutely. It's been one year nearly to the date since the last time we were here, DG Demon.

Indeed. And in what has now become a tradition, Eric Radio is live on location, covering everything that's happening on Edison 2026. This year as last one, we set up the we are set up at the bar at MS Borgilla to be precise.

That means interviews, atmospheric reports, surprise segments, curballs from me to you, DJ Demon, and a whole lot of great track music, both new and old.

And if you're in the city or live close by, you should absolutely consider attending. Tickets can be bought at at EdisonParty.com and they are pretty cheap as well.

Indeed. Scene people are really very nice and humble people and if you never experienced a demo scene before, we can guarantee guarantee you a dopamine weekend.

So, butle up everyone! Summer is indeed here, and so are we, live from Edison 2026. Starting the show is Edison 2026 invite song by a desire called Iksi Kaksi Kolma. That's one two three. If you're not fluent in Finnish, welcome everyone!

We shouldn't be that early on here. Nope, that's a bad idea really. Yeah.

Yeah, how how are you feeling,

It's a total panic here. We're so stressed out. Actually I'm stressed out. Everybody else is super cool, aren't they? No, I'm not cool. Well, I don't know about that. Many years since I stopped school. That is not an experience I want to have again.

You're too cool for school.

Well we have been setting up and planning for this Edison twenty twenty six for quite some time. And this year we actually have a lot of new tunes on the playlist. The playlist is one of the longest ones we've ever made.

Yes, absolutely. And note one thing, we often reuse songs, but this is a slow not everyone, but most of the songs are new to the station and really really something special. I I mean you really broke the molder.

Yeah well the the I I've yeah I've I've actively looked at new songs that that are that are interesting and and like you we talked about it sometimes w actually w years back on how do we find these songs and Mold Archive is pretty useful and that random button but some are just random occurrences. But the next one is not a random occurrence, is one of from one of my favorite artists is from Norway.Crits,

There could be a some sort of bias there. Some kind of nepotism going on, right?

Most of the sceners are Swedish.

Absolut absolute and and the guy you selected super genius when it comes to music.

He he he has the EOX studios in Norway he creates for games and films. But this one is what a tune. It blasts straight up with an extremely enjoyable melody that explodes in a serotonin satisfaction. Anders Engels Janssen is a god of good wipes and catchy as hell melodies. So yeah, enjoy Computer Street level one from the game Cubics, which actually is a remake.he wanted to remake the tunes for a game called Kubics by 8Bit Guy. So enjoy this one and welcome to Edison twenty twenty-six.

and Demo Party with DJ Daemon and Coreus.

Alright people we are trying to keep stuff running here. Ericade.

Hello.

Yeah, yeah, we have we're here at the bar. We live from Edison 2026 and we have no other than Frost with us.

The frost. Not so mighty, but...

A bit?

We we have how long ago is it since we last talked to you? Do you remember?

minutes agoDJ Daemon

Okay, well done.

Last year? Good. No I think it was two years ago.

Yes.

You said you should interview me but it was forgotten I think. It never happened.

It never happened. So yeah, no we have a long list of people we want to interview and sometimes the stars align, sometimes they do do not.

Yeah, absolutely, and here we are. Here we are.

Exactly. And yeah, let's let's start first with w one thing that I kinda always forget and and that is I'm gonna start with it now and that's the source or like how did you get your handle?

My handle, It's actually a pretty old story. My first handle was Gloom. When I was in like preschool, I used to draw... I saw Doom, of course. Doom. Doom. And I was impressed. When I was 10 years old, was Gloom. I even had a logo.

Gloom. Yeah, but that was an amiga cloud.

But then I remember that you can't call yourself a gloom, it's pretty lame. So I started to call myself Frost because I really, really enjoyed... In the Easter... not Easter, what is it? Fall. When the frost comes in the grass. I used to really enjoy running up barefoot and walking in the grass when it's a frosty grass.

And Dark.

Yeah. Like rhyme.

Yeah, it's actually an old ancient Norse word, rim.

Rime.

Rimfrost, yeah. There's a police operation called Rimfrost here a few years ago, wasn't it?

Det är in frost.

It's strange because rim and frost have the same meaning. I liked to in the grass when it was frost outside in the grass.

SoCoreus

yeah. But wha what year are we in now?

Like 92, 93?

Ninety two, ninety two, ninety three. was this the same time you you got into the scene or did you get into that later?

I was... I didn't really get into the scene because I lived in northern Sweden and there was no scene there. We had Amigas and we used to wear our shit. We pirated lots of floppies. I used to bicycle to the next village to pirate kopis. I had a friend in school that... His father was a tech nerd.

Frost

and had a computer and a modem and we used to hang out on BBSs and we used to order pirated floppies from Germany from a BBS. He to come to school with a printed list of where they had on the BBS. He printed out the whole file list on the BBS on paper and then we were in the schoolyard and we just went...

really?

Wish list.

I want that one, that one, checked it off and then he went home, called BBS and ordered those floppies from Germany. And a couple of weeks later he brought a bag of floppies to the schoolyard.

Just checked it off.

So so they sent it from Germany to your place. Wow. That is incredible. but like you you you you live in the northern part of Sweden, is that right?

It was awesome.

They call it, where I live now, they call it Northern part, call it cheap Northern part. It's not really the Northern Sweden, but almost.

Yeah.

Internet didn't was a thing back then. It was before the World Wide Web was a common thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is ninety two or something? Yeah. So we didn't we we talked to some who who like had friends in in universities, so they joined they went there and and just got access to internet.

I remember the first time we had some kind of connectivity online thing was this. It was a school network called said online I think it was in Jämtland and it was only a school network where you could email friends in order or something like that.

Say say hello to remote friends.

But this must have been during the day when they really counted where you were.

They were long-distance calls was ready. My friend that I used to... He who dealt the worst, he used to get in trouble because of phone bills.

Facility.

Yeah. Long distance calling was a thing back then, right?

Real, real expensive.

And today you can just use your cell phone and call your friend in Germany like it was your next neighbor.

Yeah, but that's thanks for the European Union because it wasn't like that. When the mobile phones were new, it was super expensive to call other countries.

Yeah, and the mobile phones showed up, like SMS was, I think they were like three crowns each or something like that. It was hilarious. You didn't write a bullshit SMS because it was expensive.

Yeah, y you made sure every character counted, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. So how how did you get into the scene then?

Pretty much.

I had a CS64 Amiga and I used to watch the crack trolls of all the games and I was more fascinated with the crack trolls and intros of the games more than the games itself.

What what talks to you more or what speaks to you more in a crack tro than a regular like demo or intro?

It was awesome! You booted up a Wario's 2 game, Pirates of the Game. The intro was cool scroll text, Starfield, Sinuscrawler, awesome music. It was really, really awesome. I used to videotape the characters on VHS tapes just to be able to watch them without loading the games.

Wow. That is hardcore.

But I didn't really understand that it was a thing with a scene back then. When I went to high school and met people that were into programming, they showed me, you should see this, this is demos. And I immediately said, but I want to do that thing. That is me. That is the thing I want to do. And here I am.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I think most people kinda reacted like that. This is something we want to be in on. It's kind of the cool stuff.

Yeah, it was awesome. This is awesome. I also want to be awesome. I want to this because it's awesome.

yeah, the the like if from what we've gathered DG Demon over the years is that people either they were lucky in in w in like they they had internet connection or possible in such a way that that they that they could like have a lot of access, but th those were really few. Or there are three permutations, or they live close by to a down party, so they went thereOr the third one where like they knew somebody, they they come in contact with with somebody. Yeah, yeah. So and and that's it's it's fascinating that the even though nowadays it's would you would you call it like do everybody know the demos scene you think? Like if you if you went out and just talked to somebody, is it still like shrouded in myth in a way?

You feel like yeah, so people don't know about the demo scene. They didn't know about it back then it was It was underground culture then and it is now more now like because back then the only way you can get games was Piracy. Yeah, whereas and you came in contact with crack trolls and stuff Yeah,

And then in extension the demo scene.

in an organic way just like to gather and do stuff and then it grew to the demo scene. I believe so. That was the way for me anyway.

Yeah. we will play some music and then we'll talk about the first party you went to but hold on your answer to that one b until we have played some music.

Yeah, well, what do you say? Hold your horses and release your music.

Greatness in music people.

That was what was it?

Yeah, yes let me see. I'm can I w fa far away from the screen. Yes a second.

Yes. And indeed we can. We're here at Edison twenty twenty six the demo party held yeah, mostly every year in Stockholm since twenty eleven with the exception of one or two years.

Yeah, they shut down in twenty twenty four, but thankfully they did a good thing, we did a good thing, to say, Let's do it again because it's so fun. Yeah.

It is.

Neither sabbatical gear. Everyone was burnt out.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

One year to charge charge our batteries. And we're here located yeah at MS Borgilla at the the bar here. And at the bar we have Frost with us, which one of a very prominent scenery that's been doing it for a long time. And before the music break I teased about the first demo party you went to. Do you recall what that was?

That's the things I arranged when I was a kid. Does that count? No. The first real demo party I went to was Underscore 2003, I believe. I had joined Tulo, the Amiga demo group, a couple of years before that. they thought, yeah, you should go there. Come with us to a demo party. And I went down there. I was like, I didn't know what to expect.but it was exactly as I had expected it to be. I felt when I came there, I felt about this is home. This is where I belong. All the people here are like me. They are strange like me. They do the stuff I want to do. And I didn't feel like an outsider. For the first time in my entire life, I didn't feel like an outsider.

You you felt welcome and likeFrost

It was I haven't I hadn't met anyone on the scene before but everyone was welcoming and Frost you're that guy I read read about you in some kind of disk man or something and and it was like everyone else friend It wasCoreus

Yeah.So two thousand three that's the first year when you actually met people that you read about or saw online or talked to online.

But people from outside my own town that was into computer stuff.

where was this? Like it was it in Sweden? Gothenburg. yes. That is that is cool. And what like on demo parties of course there's a lot of competitions and a lot of things that you yeah there like track music,

GothenberryCoreus

What's your main contribution? What do you usually compete with or what do you usually like? Pixel art and graphics.

I started out with Amiga graphics. The first demo group I joined was Amiga Group and I made Amiga graphics. The first picture I released in a competition was DJ Laif. I remember that Malmis in nature, beat me with three points in the competition and I said to him...You will never beat me again. I will make sure of that and after that I always worked hard so he could never beat me in a graphic scum We became good friends.

All right.

Yeah, but that's a good question. I always ask people, demo sceners, how has it changed?

It was bit more serious, a bit more competitive, was a bit more... There were more seniors back then. The scene is smaller now and everyone knows everyone. So it's more of friendly gathering.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's a thing and we are also older so maybe we don't have this kind of adrenaline rush where we have to kind of compete, right?

But I like that adrenaline rush. I like competition and a bit of friendly flame wars. It should be a bit more competitive I think because I like it.

Yeah yeah.

It's friendly fighting.

Well, well, yeah.

It adds spice and flavour.

Yeah, and it's engaging more in a way, but I want to beat that guy.

And also like it i it obviously like these demo parties are it's a break from like everyday of course. Like yeah it's it's a special thing and w you get to meet your idols maybe or just people that you have seen online and then suddenly y th that's the guy or that's the that's the person that that that you that's you.

I had a point in my life where I realized that I'm friends with the people I look up to. People I admire, their skills, their art, and I admire them. And I realized I'm one of them and they admire me in the same way I admire them. that was a strange realization. I totally We're just people. We do things for fun. I totally get it. Because we want to do it.I'm very happy to be friends with people I admire. It's the best thing in the world, ever.

I I get that. I mean was when I was a kid, Fairlight and Triad, that was the war that was. I mean, we w were super impressed by those intros for cracked games and stuff like that. and it's fun to see that we got to meet people from from all those gangs, so to speak.

That is pretty strange because when I was a little kid I saw a cracktrolls by Triad. And a couple of years ago they asked me if I wanted to Triad. I'm not sure, I like panda design. But I'm a member of Triad now. That was pretty strange because when I was 8-9 years old I saw those cracktrolls with the classical Triad logos.

Okay.

Now you're one of them in a way.

It's strange. a really nice bunch of people.

Yeah.When it comes to old demo groups there are d di dime a dust and how many d the the list goes on, but there's one I wonder about Eagle Soft, ESI.

Yeah, I remember the logo with the eagle and with the floppy in it.

I know. Best C sixty four picture ever I I thought.

No, I can't say that.

But it was back then. It's iconic.

It's iconic.

Looking at the demosu profile for you, you actually have you're one of the like pretty early added scenery. You have ID ninety-nine on on on demo sue, so that means you have been one of the pretty earliest that has been added.

was pretty active back then when they made the Muzu so I was like they were adding me.

And and looking like credits to your name, there are like ninety three productions here.

Yeah. But looking like you you have a very nice talent for these artikulate mm metikulous art styles and like you have your own art style. How how would you how would you describe it?

That's the worst question ever. can't. I've always tried to make my own stuff. don't want to be like...

Okay, let's let's change it to like what inspires you to create something.

Nature, life. I grew up on a little farm where we used to slaughter animals. You know, killing animals and all the entrails and stuff. was gory and it had a huge impression on me as a kid. And then I found out, I found artists like H.R.R. Giger. But I already drew stuff like that before. even saw his art.

Yeah, yeah.

Great mind finds things alike, right?

I have an old picture that my mother saved from preschool when I was five years old. The title of it is In the brain of a pig. Because we used to have pigs and we slaughter them and we cut up the heads of the pig with a chainsaw and split the head and threw it out on the field so the crows can go and eat it.

wow.

And me and my friendly neighbor kid thought it was fun thing to play with a poker stick in the brain of the pig. It was pretty strange but...

No.That is a bit different.

Life on the countryside, is that? Yeah, you have animals. You learn about life and death.

Yeah yeah.

Yeah I mean a lot of your as you say a lot of your art is g gory but also like artistic i i in many ways and what's what's your main platform where where do you create most of your or your art?

My main platform is traditional art, like paintbrush. The last 10 years I've been painting a lot with airbrush. And I found out that airbrush suits my style really, really well. But in the computer world, I mostly make, I think I've made the most releases on the C64 and Amiga. But I do graphics for...basically everything.

So so you like the challenge of like taking on a completely new console,

Yeah, love... That's the main thing. I like to challenge myself with the limitations. It should be hard. Painting something in Photoshop is not hard. You can just paint it. But if you do it on the C64 or ZX Spectrum or something, it starts to become really, really hard. And that is the... It's motivating to do something that is hard because it's stimulating.

Yeah. Yeah. that that is very honourable. And we'll come back to something else that you have created. I see them over there people actually we don't we're not on the we're not on yeah, you're teasing them. Well we'll come back to that after some more music.

trophies.

Yes? Yep, that's a g great thing. Yes,

DJ Demon is running back and forth between the mics so we can all be in in in camera.

You're listening to a broadcast from the Edison Demo Party in Sweden. Yes, you are. Well, we're talking about and with Frost.

Hey hey There we are. Great great voice acting there. Yeah and a man of many skills. And we're talking what one of those is graphics and and and that you like to draw and create things. And as I was saying before the break, I am actually looking at them now. The prices for you have created the prices for Edison for quite some years now.

For almost every year. I think it was the second year that we held Ederson that I started to make those prize trophies.

Tell us about bu a little about the ID for for for them.

The idea was like some kind of cyberpunkish do-it-yourself style. We used old technology, obsolete technology, and I thought it would be a cool idea to use like old PCBs, them up with an angel grinder, angel grinder. I say angel grinder because it sounds more black metal.I had this idea that I should cut up all the PCBs, motherboards from computers and paint them, stick them in on some kind of base to stand up and use that as a prize trophy. Because the demo scene is very, very, very much do-it-yourself style. And I wanted to, in some way, reflect that in the trophies.People have asked me why I don't use 3D printing or stuff like that but I don't want to do that. It should be those cut up old motherboards, PCBs. I've used some kind military radio equipment for some year but it looks cool.

Yes, absolutely. And each year you have the they have the color scheme. You you you paint and spray paint these yourself, all of them, right?

Right? Yeah.

I didn't use to paint them like the color scheme or the overall design of the party. It's something I've done for like last four or five years. I used to adhere to the general theme in some way, but not the color scheme of the party.

Thing.

Yeah. So each price that's like you have cut off a part of a PCB that's either a motherboard or s some kind of electronic board, right?

Yeah. This year I cut off my old gaming PC. So now you have no gaming PC? I have a new one. It felt kind of strange. I had that computer for like 10 years. And it felt kind of sad to just destroy it. it's like everything dies. You have to do it. It felt pretty good afterwards. But I can use this stuff for something cool instead.

DJ Daemon

That'sCoreus

Wow.

That's what you do toCoreus

Yeah, and they look very cool. I I haven't looked at all of them but like looking at from there from here the the color profile it's it's the desert theme with like an orange, a dark orange. It's always interesting. I I last year and also this year I look I followed the Discord like when you try to source what colors you're gonna use. So you look at the logo. Logo for this year is is a desert theme, so it's like orange sun and and then darker orange.

Like a sunset, of blood orange, yellow sunset.

Is it ha is it hard to to source the correct colours?

Not really because those spray paint I use, they're made by a graffiti company that make graffiti paint and they have excellent color charts. I can just look at it, I want that color.

Yeah.

So you you have a wider range of options. Yeah.

But it's always fun because I haven't used most of the colors before. I just look at the color chart and that color seems right. And I don't know the result beforehand. So it's a game of chance basically. But the last couple of years they have turned out really, really great. Over my expectations.

Yeah they have. yeah. I I mean even like the if the I think last year the there was one prize with like there was a switch that worked. Like you clicked.

Yeah, I've had a couple of trophies with that interactivity, with the switches or buttons you can push. It's a fun addition.

I i it is. And it's yeah. very very nice. And also like very unique. do you remember DG Demon what like we were at Pogadal a thousand years back. Do you remember what the prices were there? Were there enterprises? Like how do they look?

No can't remember. I mean of course they had a competition, but I don't remember giving out some physical tokens of appreciations or something. Only yeah, I think so.

Yeah, so so yeah, certainly unique and very nice.

That is very important. want physicality of it. You can hold it and it should be unique in a way.

This is not some kinda trophic game gamification thing or this has to be real.

Yeah, everyone, every piece is totally unique. It's impossible to remake exactly.

Yeah.

And I mean they're they're collectibles in the best way of the word. Because I saw someone, yeah, you earn them, exactly.

You earned them, you earned them.

You should make productions and win them.

yeah, yeah. I'll Good idea. Yeah, that's a great thing. But yeah, I saw somebody post I think it was on the Edison Discord they had like a array of them through the years. Was it swart, yeah.

Right.

Swarp When Swarp first came to The first time I visited Eddison he won of course and now he's a collector I think he has the largest collection of those trophies He and Danko of Firelight I think have I believe have the largest collections of those trophiesCoreus

Yeah.

Yeah.

Can I ask you something, Frost? Do you have some tracker music? Do you make any kind of music? It's just graphics.

I have a streaming music entry for a streaming music competition this year. But I have released a couple of tracked music entries. I even won one year at Skövde at Greep. I won. It was strange because I didn't think I could win. But yeah, I like being creative. I do stuff.

Yeah.

What format, impulse tracker, mod or what was it?

That time I won was, I think it was AHX. Amiga Tracker, chiptune tracker.

I know I know what it is.

The you you according to to demo sue there's hey San Podley in twenty eleven. I'm not sure if you won with that.

yeah, no, that was... They used to have those fast surprise composes at Grep and they gave you a floppy with samples and you had like 30 minutes or hours to make a song in a tracker and mostly those are pretty drunken shenanigans. Yeah, that's when I...

No.

In twenty nine with Grep, you won with Sven Plokaswam, or Sing Mushrooms, first in in the chip music collection in two thousand and nine.

Sven or picking mushrooms?

That is fun.

Yeah we should we should source it and and play it later on.

My favorite compos are those that I participate in. When I release something in a compo, I get more attentive to that competition because I'm in it. So it's more interesting to know what you compete against. But my favorite compos are of course graphics because that's my thing. I'm a graphics dude and I like graphics.

I like itCoreus

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

And and you're you're attending this year's live graphic duel, one of the staples of Edison.

I've become some kind of furniture in that competition. The staple thing.

Yu, Grogu,

I miss Kavan, he is not here this year. I miss him, I love him dearly. He a really nice guy and I really miss him. He should come here.

Yeah,

get together and get down here because the cost of otherwise i have to come to brown bird and you know what's gonna happenDJ Daemon

Yeah.

All right, cross fired I guess. the yeah the the Edison twenty twenty six is is g going on. The doors have opened they opened at three and looking behind me, actually looking at the stream right now,

Well we heard on this stream, hey, turn it on.

No, I d we're looking at but I don't think it's live.

Okay, that's great. I mean you can see someone interviewing people and they can't hear it.

but w maybe we'll we'll fix it in post.

Yep.

Fixed in post. It's like making music, but you can fix it in the mastering. No, you can't.

No I know, I know, that's a joke, the joke is no you can't.

Speaking of demo parties, what other demo parties have you attended to this year or planned to?

This year Fjälldata, that's mainly CS64 focused party in the Northern Jämtland, I'm from. That's my hoods.

Do you have any upcoming that you wanna attend?

I have three parties that I try to attend to each year. It's Fjeldata, Edison and Brown Birdie. Brown Birdie is a separatist. They went from Birdie, that LAN party in Uppsala, and they did their own thing. It's a very small party, but everyone knows each other and it's...

Brown birdie.

It's seriously unserious and it's hilarious. That party has the best ratio of releases per visitor. think it's usually like 20 people but somewhere around 90 or 100 releases. Almost all releases are under fake handles.

Wow.

Yeah, I I I can guess that. If you remember Jur Malta has that kind of style. Yeah, they have an idea. I mean one song was inflating a tire, in no a bicycle tire for three minutes. Fun.

Brown Bird is pure hilarious fun. get what is it, Tränningsverk. In my stomach because I'm laughing so much. It's extremely fun. It's borderline insane fun.

Yeah. Yeah.

You're not joking. I'm looking at the demo Sue for this is twenty twenty four, but in the streaming compo block there's twenty four entries. For if there's like twenty people there, that's insane. That's like two songs per person.

And people like to release productions in other people's names. It's pure chaos. It's extremely fun. It's totally unpredictable and it's chaos and it's hilarious.

That isCoreus

Yeah, I and Brown Birdie it seems to be I'm trying to lo Delsplabory.

It's the yeah.

They have one of the places in Sweden that had the folk music tradition as strong as Delsbo and in Helsingland generally have a really really strong folk music traditionCoreus

yeah.

Hmm. And now brown birdie.

Yeah, and brown body.

It's been going on since twenty nineteen it seems like,

It's It's pure chaos and it's extremely fun.

Good decent.And in the URL there is memory leak. I never yeah. Yeah, you can check that out for yourself on on demo suit and and seems like for last year, twenty twenty five, there's no no entries uploaded.

They just haven't added it. They don't take it that serious. It's just for fun. It's a bunch of friends that meet and have a hilarious weekend and it's insanely fun.

I'm talking about meeting other people. When you come here or to demo parties, like who who do you hook up with? Who like people that you don't usually see but almost every time you see it's like, Yeah,

Of course, there's always the old friends that I've met every year since like 20 years. I'm always glad to see new people and I try to hook up with everyone and I'm glad to see new faces because the scene is shrinking a bit. We are getting older and the scene isn't getting larger and bigger and every time I see a new person that I haven't met before I'm becoming very very happy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like meeting new friends, friends that I share my interests with. It's the best thing in the world.

And we actually had one of those when we came here this morning, DG D man. there was one guy standing outside, he was wondering when the venue was opening and he he came he came back and he's in the he's in the venue now. so he bought a ticket and and and got there and that is very great to both see and and experience. And yeah it was his first time here.

Yeah, the scene really, really needs new blood, new persons, because it's mostly the same people that go to parties and we have met at all the parties for like 15 years. So when it comes a new person, are, I'm super happy to meet new people that like the things I do, that we do together, because it's a communal thing.

And I mentioned it before, but like the the welcoming atmosphere, like one of the first years we were covering Edison. It's like we obviously we were unknown and and well we might argue we still are, but still it's there was just like this heartwarming welcome of like yeah, let's let's let's enjoy these like weird creations on weird platforms or obscure technology.Or like what do you do, like a genuine interest of what like what you like, what you do.

That's the best thing, to meet new people that share your interests. The best thing in the world is to share your interests with another one. Share what you love to do and find a new person that also likes what you do. You want to share that love in some kind of way. I can't describe it.

Yeah.

And over the years it becomes friendly fightingFrost

Yeah, we meet new friends based on the creativity. People are a special kind of creative in the demo scene and sharing that creativity with others is the best thing in the world. I know nothing like it.

That's well put, like especially cre creativity because as we were said said in the beginning, limitation breeds creativity and there is nobody better suited than that than everybody in the demo scene.

No, no I guy.

We are strange people, like the one that made that documentary of... Yeah, unique, but we are special kind of people with a special kind of interest, with a special kind of creativity. And a skill set. Most demo-scene-ers are probably the most skilled people I know at doing what they do. But they do weird stuff.

Unique, Alice.

And and skill set. Yeah.

I talked to Trident last year and I asked him how how easy is it to create a C64 demo these days. And he said it's actually pretty easy. You well you can either use code assist or you could look like look at existing code and just copy and paste.

his borderline insane. But he said he's extremely extremely extremely skilled coder.

Yes, he is. So But but but it seems like the the threshold or barrier to entry is lower than it was before. Like if you dive twenty years back it's it felt more like dark magic than it is today. That's what the impression I got from him.

It's probably more black magic nowadays because people have all they have mapped the hardware they know exactly how to do it and when people find new things to use to utilize and new hacks to make stuff with it's I'm impressed that people manage to make new things on C64 because that hardware has been around since 83.And it's amazing that people still manage to do new tricks. New tricks and new stuff that no one has made before. That is... It's flabbergasting.

Hmm.

make no escape. No no no mistake. The it's still very impressive but but yeah. He he said it was easier now than ever.

Yeah, you have you have a backlog you are standing on the shoulder of giants. Yes, kind of but you still have to make new things. So you have you have this All this old knowledge to stand on. Yeah, but people still make yeah, stand on that and find new things It will never stop to impress me How the fuck do they do it?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah yeah. I i i it's yeah, it's mind blowing.

I like, hello Trident! See that I have the wrong data!

we we'll wrap up and in tradition we we right now I didn't prepare you for this but we'll I'll still fire off the question is the if you have a favorite tune you wanna hearFrost

Favorite tune?

Or a tune if you want to hear.

the music from the demo ODD, world domination of ODD. I love that. I love the attitude in that demo.

Okay. World domination odds design.

Yeah, I love that. It's pretty, it's about fuck off. It's punkish, it's arrogant and it's yeah, fuck you. And I love it. It's got tons of attitude and I love that kind of stuff.

I gotcha. This podcast will be marked explicit.

He that world domination won the Gathering two thousand and three combined demo competition.

It's a really, really awesome demo. But it is the attitude of the demo that is the point.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, we'll we'll source that one and play it once we have converted that thing. It's actually an EXE file, so that would be interesting. But it's actually on YouTube so I maybe can there might f might be a way.

There is a will, there is a way.

Exactly.

No I think we got this covered right well and nice.

Yeah. thank you so much for for talking to us here at the bar.

Thank you for having me. It's been a nice chat. Really fun. We should do it again next year or something. And I'm happy that you are here at Edison.

Yeah, that'sYes, we'llYeah, we are very happy to be here too. So we'll mark the schedule for next year then DJ Demon with frost on on the schedule. So we already know that now.

Yes, but next year you have to be naked.

that I can promise. That's not how we have this radio for a good reason.

This is radio for a good reason.

You're one of the organizers here, right?

Yeah, I'm like a kind of background organizer. I started out as one of the main organizers. Me and Radiant and Clegg in Palenzi started the party. Over the years we had new organizers. So I'm just some kind of background figure. I'm an organizer and I help out with stuff and make the prize trophies.

Last year the title on demosu Quartermaster. So maybe a Quartermaster.

This year we have this western theme. year I want to title of Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. Everyone should read that novel by Conor McCarty. It's one of the best novels I've read in my life. Read it and suffer. It's...

Jab shoulder.

Yeah, okay.

Good recommendation there.

It's one of the best American books ever written, ever.

That's a tall tall order. But yeah, thank you so much for taking your time to talk with us and enjoy the rest of Edison twenty twenty-six.

Same to you. I'm going to have another beer and prepare for a live graphics duel.

yeah, we're looking forward to that. and yeah, enjoy the rest of Edison man.

Yeah, some more music.

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ChooooFrost

youCoreus

that was Raddix with let's see Yogurt Factory.

Yes, yes it was. We had a little bit of a problem here. Some some people have complained that we p played two broadcast streams at the same time, where one is more than enough. And that's a technical problem we have hopefully fixed right now. So sorry about that. We are working on improving your experience. We isn't saying too much now, is it?

No I'm trying to get up the s actually the schedule here, but the internet is a bit flaky and I have to go down on the list here. And yeah, why not said that we were we were at the yogurt factory, went to the yogurt factory and we have played a lot of tunes here and the we had interview with Frost earlier.And later well it will be tomorrow we'll have an interview with FS Freak and actually another very prominent scenery hopefully as well. I haven't seen him. I think you know who I'm talking about, right?

No, not really.

Yes, then I know, but I'm not gonna say anything.

Yeah, sure. and the opening ceremony for Edison twenty twenty-six is starting at six, which is only a ho an hour away or so. you can go to Edisonparty.com to check out the schedule and we actually have a fun a fun thing planned after the opening ceremony. So make sure toTune in for that. Also looking at the stream now we're actually online. So it's if you go to edisonparty.com or twitch.tv slash edisonparty you can see live streams from from the party.

Yes, and you can also hear us, I guess. I think they fixed that now, right?

Yeah well you'll have to ans you you'll have to answer that. I I don't know. I've been outside and talked to a lot of great people up on deck. You can see that on the stream as well. We have very nice weather here in in Stockholm, Sweden. And and the Edison twenty twenty six demo party. So yeah the the the theme every year changes and what's the theme this year?

Yeah,

HolyWhich is our Western theme.

And they was talking about should we really have a Western theme? Isn't that kinda problematic given some of the stellaries?

Then you can't have anything because you can always relate to something. No so western cactuses, sunsets, cowboys and horses and everything between. So I'm guessing there will be a lot of desert and western related contributions in competitions this year, right?

Yes, I think it will be. So we're hoping for that.

We definitely are. And let's see if the next song on our list is Western related. No, it's not, but it's Celestial Fantasia by Beat of Osmos.

Here we go.

youDJ Daemon

Yeah, hello. yeah, Ericade.radio here. You're listening to us. We are broadcasting live here from from Edison Demo Party. That's great, right? Koreas is kinda s kinda fixing some cables that have messed up here and yeah we are soon to gone with some really nice music here. Loading up with some Skaven, I might tell you.

Rolling up the cables, man.

Rolling up the cables and how is it doing? Are we less messed up?

Mm-hmm.

here comes something. Yeah, hello?

Yes, behind us they're announcing a competition for the live graphics duel. People should participate. live on location from Emmas Burgilla, Stockholm, Sweden at Edison twenty twenty six. And if you are listening you can attend yourself.

Yep.

That's right. You should come, it's a great party, I would say.

Where do you go if you wanna get p become a part of this great establishment?

You should go to demoparty. No, sorry. You should go to edisonparty.com. Or you can go here if you are in Sweden. You can go to MS Borgilla. We are in södra mellastrande in sadhold.

Edisonparty.com is your one-stop shop to find about everything that's happening here and you can get your own ticket. They are not they are pretty cheap. Internet here is very flaky, so I cannot access actually edisonparty.

Yeah, but southern central Stockholm.

Well, it's kinda standard, it's always very flaky because everybody's trying to connect at the same time, right? Yeah.

Yeah, it's it's you could almost expect it but I always get surprised anyway.

Yeah, that's right. All right,

The today most likely not because we well we'll see. There is it's an hour or so to the opening ceremony and then we are on deck for a very yeah continuing in the vein of last year where we had music history and there is something interesting coming this year that we have prepared for. So make sure to check out EdisonParty.com or go to twitch dot TV slash EdisonParty and you can see.The venue and see the stream. But obviously you should be here if you are able.

That's right. Some more music would you say?

Yes. I let me guess, it's Skaven by Merk Mercury Rain, or is it Coax with Hobbs Adventure?

I think it's Coax with Hobbes Adventure. Kinda displays a bit confused here right now. Everything is blinking. But it's working anyway. It's Coax and Hobbes Adventure and you know, the guy who wrote us that song is a tribute to what comic you think?

Everything is blinking.

Mmm Hobbes. Calvin and Hobbes. Yes, that's a great song.

That's the right son answer.

K Dot Radio, live from the Edison demo party in Sweden. Yes, here we are at brand new station ID Ziva. Absolutely.

That nice. And yeah, live from the Edison 2026

Yes, and we have no music in the background, so you can hear us fine, I I hope.

Yeah, somebody was mentioning we had playing two songs at the same time or something.

No, it's optimization, it gets much better that way because then you get double the experience. Multi multitasking. Maybe it was an error, I don't know. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Multitasking. Exactly. And there's been a lot of multitasking Today there's been a lot of multitasking. Yes. And lot of things that have yeah,

Yeah. Have you seen one demo party where stuff haven't broken up? It's kinda so sorry I'm saying this a thousand times, but it's the same story. Always stuff breaks, we can't start in time and yeah,

You said it best, even the best laid plans don't survive reality.

No, that is actually one of those laws on life. Murphy's law even.

Yeah.yeah, Edison Party dot com is w where you can check out by the party unless you're here of course. And if you're not here, what are you doing? you should Yeah, you should be here. you can go to Edisonparty dot com and secure your ticket and come straight down to MS Bourgilla, which is I'm just gonna say central Stockholm. Is that fine enough? People understand.

You should be here.

Ja, där det är fing.

And of course there are also if you wanna secure your own merch, they have on the same website you can go to merch or where's I'm not sure what the link is called, and you can get a collection of various things. We have actually if you look at the stream here, we actually have the Yeah, the mug. Hold your horses and release your prods. NML, very nice mug.

The mug, yeah.

Yeah we are totally bought by Edison here. We're sponsored by they are We're plugging the competition. No, we're plugging ourselves. I don't know what's going on. But that's what's up.

So while while you create your productions you can drink from that cup and getDJ Daemon

In style and you have the soul eater himself in there.

Yeah this is Kreselach in case you're wondering he's always with us. This is a 3D printer thing that was printed by by a friend of mine and he's a beholder of sorts. he appears randomly during the stream and right now he has occupied this Edison cup.

Yes, he has.

And yeah, we talked to Frost earlier. Yeah. I didn't know he had so many productions.

That was quite the story actually.No. But I can tell to you who missed it or maybe didn't really like hearing the music in the background. It's coming on a podcast in a few weeks from now. So you can hear it again, so nothing has been lost.

But also if you didn't catch that interview, we still have many, many interviews planned for tomorrow, actually. We have a packed programme, I can say.

Yes. No rest for the wicked.

No rest for the weekend. So there will be a lot of interesting things and hopefully we'll also talk to a very well known senior associated with the largest demo party in the world.

yes, I know who it is. It no no I'm not saying it. Not not gonna spoil it for you.

but for today we're actually very close to the opening ceremony actually at Edison twenty twenty six. That will be at seven. And you don't wanna miss that. and yeah, tomorrow we will also have a very special segment. I'll I'll just see the hint or see the thoughts here.

Flashback. Flashback, that's something. You can get a flashback from the eighties and nineties or you can listen to flashback tracks from the past. That's a podcast. That's the podcast. And this is a special live edition just for you Edison guys and girls.

Yeah.

F first in Eric history, right?

I think so. Yeah. Yeah.

Live. we're doing it live as as it were.

Like we're doing it live. We're doing it live.

A lot of people have of course have come now. the weather is still holding very nice. you can chillax up on deck or you can be down here where we are. Also if you're here just come and say hi. We're at the bar behind the the scene or the what do you call this thing that you present on?

the screen.

when we talked to Frost he had a song he wanted to hear.

Yes, I have loaded up for you.

It's from two thousand and three demo called World of Domination. So by LF Odd and Mac V O C odd, not sure.

the it is all it is all it is so this is Edison Down Party. Keep listening.

See in your mother's fucking face.Is the revelation 2000 and three on the shit?

World domination. that's great. I mean a lot of people think that's a great thing. I mean Napoleon he he was totally into that.

Each to their own I guess.

I wouldn't. I I kinda feel dominating is hard, it's kinda like I try to keep my apartment tidy and that's as much Yeah, that's as much and it's kinda like hard enough.

Domination as you want.Yeah. we're watching the stream now at twitch.tv slash edisonparty or you can go to edisonparty.com We actually behind us people are coming and our resident piano player he has arrived.

Absolutely nice.

very talented. I think if his his name is Magnus, I forget his rear handle. we interviewed him a couple of years back.

Yes, I remember that. That was actually very good.

Very interesting how he got into playing music and and yeah, continues to do that. comes here and graces with with his presence. So that's very very nice.

Yeah, we are about to sign off here in a few minutes right now it's actually we are not going anywhere. Not you and no no but we are going off the air. Ericada.radio will continue broadcasting, but not from Edison. but if you're in Edison, what happens? What's up?

The opening ceremony starts real soon in less than half an hour. And then there is something called art history that we'll commentate on. And we will also be commentating the live graphics duels. So we'll we'll stay here and provide commentary through the night. Yeah or through the evening.

Do show a little bit of appreciation for the people doing their best here.

Yeah. So so many skilled people and s so many nice energy. So that's very very very nice to to see. And the weather outside is not frightful, it's beautiful.

I was thinking of that. Are you are we doing Christmas carol?

Outside is beautiful. Delightful.

Yes. The snow very not.

And behind us I hear Monkey Island.

Yeah yeah yeah I know. I think the best what is the color that you associate with Monkey Island? Green. Green okay. I I was thinking blue. I mean the most beautiful game start since maybe like Loom. Loom had the same kind of bluish yeah that blue Yeah, EGA blue, but that's the bluest EGA you can get.

Grog.

Yeah.

What platform did you play Monkey Island on first?

Amiga. Amiga. Amiga. Yes, yes I did.

It was DOS for me. Yeah. It had much better graphics, so it looked way nicer.

You had VGA then I guess. Yeah. Yeah of course. VGA was kinda like when Amiga came out in two nineteen eighty-seven. It was the only thing that could beat Amiga, but nobody had VGA because it was so expensive. But later on, okay, yeah, the Amiga couldn't keep up.

Yeah.

Nah. But but the the interesting thing is if you look at the AGA, the last attempt for Amiga, it wasn't half bad. It was two hundred and fifty-six colors, so it could match VGA. It also had a ham eight mode, which meant that it can have like sixteen million colors. Okay, it had some limitations, but still the PC could not do that.

No. No, that's but then it was too late for Amiga anyway.

It was too late in the day. And that Tori Falcon was an interesting failure. It was a really cool computer, sixty-eight forty CPU, but they only made like six sixty thousand like, you know units. And then they com di decommissioned the whole thing.

Speaking of retro, everything here is retro and or most of it is retro still. And I gotta throw out thank you to FS Freak who brought the toilett tunes back. I specifically asked him to bring we one of our first Edisons. We visited the toilet and there was phone here phone playing chips and that's awesome.It was you that actually took the phone. It's like who lost this? Who owns this? No, no, no. It it should be there.

I'veshould be there. Absolutely. And it belongs okay, I it shouldn't say anything bad about chip tiles. Quite opposite love him. But it's like toilet? Is should we really put ship tune? Is that how you venerate the art of ship tiles? You put it on a toilet.

It gives you a good feeling in in there. Okay, absolutely. It's it's back and if you wanna experience it yourself, come to MS Bourgilla and Edison Party. You can secure your ticket at EdisonParty.com and experience that and a lot lot more as we're moving closer to the opening ceremony here. But we are signing off, as I said.

In a few mi... minutes here, so stay with Ericade dot radio until seven PM C T ser then you should absolutely go to the Twitch channel if you're not there. or Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Because then the whole thing the whole shebang starts up and it's gonna be nice.

I've done them both at theCoreus

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, stay tuned and we'll talk to you soon.

Yeah, more music, right?

The Ericade Radio Network. We are live from the Edison Demo Party with DJ Daemon and Coreus.

Live from the Edison Demo Party in Sweden.Yes, for a few seconds we will be live. We are leaving the airwaves right now and wish to say that in a few weeks from now you get another setup podcast with the interviews, the songs and the stories on flashback tracks from the post. I'm Didi Demon and we're leaving over to the normal broadcast automation. However, if you are listening on Twitch for the Edison Down Party, it's Edison that counts because that's what you're gonna hear in a few moments when they start up.And it's gonna have a lot of nice demo party competitions and everything you come to expect from Edison. So thank you for listening and stay on the Twitch channel, people. The cool stuff is about to begin. Bye-bye for now.