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8. The XMAS 2020 special, special, speciality. Hour 3/3.
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Flashback, tracks from the past
We have covered the demo scene since 2020, and play all the great chip tune music as well. Join us to hear tracked music combined with commentary from the geek-of-all-trades: DJ Daemon. He was once known once a Daemon in the Amigaworld, and brings you stories about Amiga, retrocomputing, C64, demos, the demo scene and all things nerdy in the retro world.
We play tracker music composed on Protracker, Screamtracker, Fasttracker and Impulsetracker. It's music composed on Amiga and the retro-PC. Genres such as Chiptune, Synthwave and Retro electro.
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8. The XMAS 2020 special, special, speciality. Hour 3/3.
Flashback, tracks from the past
🎧 Playlist
- 00:00 Jingle - Top of the hour - Good evening
- 00:05 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 00:35 x-masmegamixie
- 02:37 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 03:02 Amiga - LIVIN_IN
- 06:03 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 08:10 amixmas
- 12:16 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 12:51 Amiga - BIGBANG
- 215:14 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 16:05 Alexander Brandon - Winter Hare
- 18:13 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 18:58 Dr. Awesome - Now What?
- 23:40 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 24:14 goto80-xmas
- 25:09 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 25:33 Amiga - LOGO
- 527:19 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 28:04 nutcase_-_xmastune
- 28:33 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 29:04 Amiga - FREDOMM
- 37:01 Jingle - tunes heard and laugh at
- 37:06 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 38:50 Amiga - DRAMATIC
- 42:10 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 42:37 Amiga - LEMONETR
- 44:38 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 45:22 Amiga - BELIVE
- 47:22 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 48:19 Amiga - CONVENTI
- 50:12 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 51:11 xmas_
- 152:39 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 52:56 Dr. Awesome - Christmas Spirit
- 55:24 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 56:03 Amiga - Winter Dreams
- 01:00:00 Jingle - Top of the hour - Good evening
- 01:00:05 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:00:25 Amiga - CHOPPER
- 01:02:55 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:03:37 Amiga - hymn to yezz
- 01:04:34 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:05:10 Amiga - Jaha
- 01:05:54 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:06:14 xmas_
- 9901:09:22 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:11:04 Amiga - ime_cmd
- 01:12:09 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:12:33 Dr. Awesome - Doin' the Sushi
- 01:15:03 Jingle - remember the BBS scene in Sweden? Go to the.ericade.net to read the histories. They are in the Swedish language.
- 01:15:11 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:17:07 xmas_beat
- 01:17:43 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:18:00 Amiga - suggestive vibes
- 201:19:34 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:20:04 Amiga - BLINYZQ
- 01:25:54 Jingle - The ERICADE Radio Network – we are on Youtube!
- 01:25:55 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:28:40 Amiga - COSMOS
- 01:38:25 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:41:36 xmas_bullcrap
- 01:44:44 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:46:49 Amiga - Army of Toy Soldiers
- 01:49:49 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:51:01 Amiga - anarchymenu
- 401:52:17 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 01:53:48 Amiga - GENGHIS_
- 01:58:01 Amiga - DOWN
- 02:01:09 Amiga - Act of Impulse
- 02:05:34 Jingle - The ERICADE Network promo
- 02:05:55 Dr. Awesome - Clearazill
- 02:09:33 Amiga - elysium
- 02:13:15 Amiga - BRASSY
- 02:15:18 Jingle - Commodore was limited, but the Amiga is eternal
- 02:15:28 Amiga - AT&T
- 02:02:21 Amiga - feed your chicken!!
- 02:00:00 Jingle - Top of the hour - Good evening
- 02:00:05 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:00:31 Amiga - FINSPIRA
- 02:02:27 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:03:15 xmas_card_
- 9502:05:18 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:07:41 Amiga - LADADEE
- 02:12:32 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:14:59 xmas_hey_ho
- 02:16:40 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:18:43 Amiga - CAVERN
- 02:20:00 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:21:38 xmas_hit_collection
- 02:25:11 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:27:07 xmas_ii
- 02:27:37 xmas_mix_
- 199202:33:05 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:34:48 xmas_orgy
- 02:35:49 Dr. Awesome - Early Light
- 02:37:42 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:38:45 Jingle - best enjoyed in the glow of the modem's lights
- 02:38:53 Amiga - CD2PART
- 102:41:36 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:42:30 Amiga - the speed maniac
- 02:44:45 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:46:04 xmas_remix
- 02:51:01 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:52:09 xmas_tunes
- 02:55:11 DJ Daemon speaks.
- 02:55:54 Amiga - DECORE
🎤 Production Notes
I created this episode as people on Discord asked me to play some XMAS-music. This became the episode where I started using ModArchive to find tracks. This had a profound effect on the station, as it became my standard routine for me after that.Colophone"A special" is often in the USA a TV-program running on a holiday such as christmas or easter. The Special, special, speciality is a homage to a holiday special aired in 1969 featuring the cast of comic strip "Pogo Possum".
📝 Transcript
listening to the Ericade Radio Network. Good evening and welcome to another hour of Amiga Retro music. Ho ho ho ho. This is the Amiga Flashback Christmas speciality special special special something. This is DJ Daemon.and we got some nice tunes that are well Christmas crap I guess or maybe Christmas bull crap and yeah we'll be talking about the CDTV, Fondata and CD32.
Christmas Mega Mixi. Yup. This is The Ericade Radio Network and Amiga Flashback. Well, we are soon gonna talk a little bit about phone data that as I am speaking right now is still underway. But before that, some more music living in.
So let's report from Fondata. It still has a few hours to go as I am speaking here. Then it will close its doors. Well, the whole show started at 5 PM here in Swedish time and it went off without a hitch. They were on time and everything seemed nice. But technical problem arose pretty fast.They had to fight a little bit with the technology to get John Hertel or Shaki into the interview. But it worked and we got an interesting story from a guy who is kinda like a legend here in Sweden. He is a very extraordinary wizard with electronics and building accelerators and CPU expansions and all that kind of stuff.He told us some stories about his technical challenges, but also the challenges that are more social when you're building stuff for a community such as this. Right, I really liked that. was cool. And one thing I gotta say, I have never seen him before and he did not look anything like I had expected him to. So that's it. Then we went into Amiga Christmas and non-Christmas demos. And of course, 64 Ditto.very great. Some of them we've seen before and some were well new to me at least. One cool little thing is there is a group called MECHA DESIGN that I personally did not know the people there but they knew about the demo group I was a part of. So there is actually a greeting to Eternal from MECHA DESIGN. I had never I didn't know this so it was like mind blown or something.Well, a few hours to go and more interesting stuff coming up there. So we have to talk a little bit about maybe next, well, Amiga flashback or something.
No, Mr. Schwarzenegger, I expect you to die. okay, wrong line. Anyway, we will be reporting a little bit about Fondata and the demos there. They have a competition coming up, and I say coming up because I'm recording this half past seven here in Sweden, and the demo competition will start in, well, half an hour, and as you're listening to this, this has already passed. It's called taping stuff, it's weird.
Big Bang 2. And I don't know if you have seen Anchorman, the legend of Ron Burgundy. Said Mr. Burgundy is an anchor on a TV station and he has a very bad habit of actually reading whatever is on the teleprompter without really thinking too much about it. It's used against him by adding the F-word to the teleprompter causing him to say, F-U San Diego.Well, that's not very classy, right? And I have a little bit of the same problem. I pretty much do whatever people tell me on Discord or other channels. So time to celebrate a bit of Christmas with, well, our favorite rabbit.
Winter Rabbit and that's from the game Jack Jazz Rabbit and yeah, thanks, Korea's for coming up with that suggestion. It's a really cool game. I don't think it ever existed on the Amiga, but anyway, you don't have to be that fixated on it. mean, sometimes you have to be able to play something that isn't strictly Amiga. So why not? Well, what can I say? I'm watching and listening to the phone data music competition here.And the first music I heard here seemed to have misspelled Santa. I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to be spelled Satan.
Dr. Awesome with Now What. And the next song when I was researching it I wondered what is Go To 80. I can remember there was a command for or program for the C64 that could switch you into 80 column mode. But it turns out that was really the wrong answer. Go To 80 is Anders Karlsson, a Swedish artist. well, Christmas tunes is in right now, isn't it? So it's called Christmas.
25 minutes past the hour. In 35 minutes we're entering the second hour out of three where we will be covering the CDTV, an Amiga product that was so confusing that not even Commodore knew what the heck it was for.
5. This is Derrick K. The Radio Network and we keep spinning the vinyl that isn't vinyl, never was vinyl, actually we're spinning something that isn't even a disc. I know it's kind of confusing with this newfangled thing that is electronic music produced on something that doesn't come in a package, sent over a modem or something like you can't even imagine you know little ones and zeros traveling down some kind of data line. I meanThat is what the kids today are doing, with their 1400 modems and what not. Yeah, sure. I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
If there is a pattern here, seems to be that all those songs are super short. I think I'm recording speech after speech and I get nowhere. And then I look at the lengths and see that, all right, they are shorter than any time you would need to get something done in a microwave oven. And that's not a good thing. So let's take a little bit of a break with a nice seven minute long tune.
The tunes you remember, the ones you never heard and the ones you laugh at Swedish customs can be a bit weird sometimes Especially if you come from somewhere else and look in here and wonder what are they doing? We have something called Julbord which is translated to Christmas table and that is a table full of all the kind of nice things that you like like sausages, meatballs, yeah it's Sweden so don't complaindifferent kind of fishes and some sweets and you just walk around there and pick up what you need and you walk many times over and over again until you're well kind of full and promising yourself never to eat that much again and yeah that's pretty much what it's about a friend of mine said we have a day where we need to work and that was yesterday so he was coming over to my house because we are building a documentation system here in order to yeahWe hope to be able to sell it later And I said yeah, well, we should have a you'll board and I say yeah, sure Is it anything you don't want? I don't like fish and he was like, are you crazy? That's pretty much most of the of the you'll board I mean, we can't even make it happen But there is some kind of them. What should I say? Common language you can speak with any Swede and it's called Opiea Andersonthat is actually not vodka, it's what we call brännvin. It's like vodka but with a lot of seasoning in. And that is something every Swede, no matter if he came here five minutes ago from another country or have lived here for his whole life, can agree on. Vodka is crap. Brännvin, that's where it's at.
Grammaric and before that it was a song called freedom We're calling going on here with lemon tree. I think it's Yeah, it's not that old 60s song if that's what you're thinking about Well seems like your phone data is going on with new c64 Jones.
say if the demo creators here in Christmas time have gone knocking futz or something really no idea but I just heard a demo here playing I saw Santa Claus kissing mom I mean come on do we need that I mean it's like that grandma got hit by a reindeer I mean do we really need that kind of audio pollution in our well headphones I think not actuallyYeah, well, at least it's not a haw. No, sorry, it's not a wham with last Christmas. Because if that happens, I will cut the power to the whole building.
And now it's time for your physics lesson. I'm gonna explain to you how freezing alcohol works. minus 37 or is it 39 degrees centigrade, that is when alcohol freezes. So if you take alcohol, in this case this O.P. Anderson I was speaking about previously, and you put it in the fridge, and now you decide to pick it out, which I just did. Well, it's minus 25.degrees in the fridge. So it seems no problem. But actually the alcohol cannot be poured right now. It has the kind of consistency of glue and I can't get it out of the flask. I don't know how to do it. I don't know. This is not the way I wanted to celebrate Christmas. I have to get a beer.
I there's convention or something. Again, those screwed up file names. More Christmas music coming up right now. We're leaving the first hour and when I look at the screen here, it seems to be the Royal Belgian Beer Squadron. Yeah, that's the name of the demo group that is playing a demo here. RBBS is what they call themselves. It's fun to see that in this day and age, the old retro, well, computer scene is still so much alive.It's weird to see this is a Commodore 64 playing something and it says 2020 on the year not like 1987 as you probably thought it was gonna be. When I was young I never really understood how in like 30 or 45 years later I would be still watching Commodore 64 demos. But you know the retro market it will never die.
Erickade radio network Presenting you with back-to-back Christmas because you deserve it or something make something up I don't know.
Dr. Awesome with Christmas spirit. You can say it's more like a retro spirit perhaps. I don't know. We're going on into the second hour here on the Ericade radio network. And at that time, as I promised, we were going into the history of the CDTV, one of Commodore's last failures, the one that may have started the tipping point that would be the beginning to the end.And that was before the infamous A600.
listening to the Ericade Radio Network. Good evening and welcome to another hour of Amiga Retro music. Running late and running at full speed. Time for next hour. And yeah, we will be talking about the CDTV, some foreign data. Of course, it's still on. yeah, Christmas music coming up, but not right now.
lost the war. I am a broken hero. I admit as much. I tried. I fought a good fight, but I could not in the end make it to victory. It was not meant to be. I only listened to radio stations with talk and podcasts without music and music that did not get into that era. But I still lost the war.I tried, god should know I tried. I got whammed. I'm ashamed, but I admit it.
How it happened you ask? Alright, I will tell you. It was phone data. A Commodore 64 would never do such a thing to me, but it did. I don't know how to say it, the pain is grievous. But the truth is, a demo played that bloody song with a 64 Sid ship. The ultimate stab in the back. Last Christmas. Screw you, wham.
We are opening up for the discussion about the CD32 in a few moments, but I've almost forgot we need to play some Christmas songs because that's what we're doing. This is Christmas number 99. That's more than Mambo number 5. Santa Claus comes tonight. No more days to count, but the even longer wait begins. The suspense of having to wait from bedtime till morning. Yes, kids all over the world say their prayers and go to sleep knowing that when they wake up...The little fat man with the long white beard will have stopped by their houses and left the answer to a wish from the most wonderful magical sack there ever was. It is important to remember the true meaning of Chris.
yourself a failure a failure in name in color in pretty much shape and everything I give you nothing more and nothing less than this CD TV and I know you might think that the CD TV is simply compact disc TV well if it could do that Commodore might have actually gotten away with itThe CDTV, which Commodore defined as the Commodore Dynamic Total Vision, which means nothing, was simply an Amiga 500 with a CD-ROM that was meant to be that computer that did pretty much everything except being a computer. The reason why they couldn't call it a compact disc TV was that it was underpowered and could just not play.Full motion video which is kind of what you think about when you talk about, you know, CDTV instead they said it should do something it should be a Game machine or maybe it should be able to put up a Dictionary of some kind you just look up everything you need to know in life and it will tell you It doesn't come with a text. Don't panic on the outsideBut maybe Commodore should have panicked because the whole thing was a machine without a purpose, without a plan, and without, it turned out, a future.
It's looking a little bit like Christmas. Not much though, because the corona makes everyone stay at home and bunker down, looking outside the windows and wondering, wouldn't it be better with a mushroom cloud? That is at least an apocalypse that you can relate to.
The Ericade Radio Network. Remember the BBS scene in Sweden? Go to the.ericade.net to read the histories. They are in the Swedish language. Now, all right. All right, fine. Let's talk a little bit about the CDTV. I'm going to split it up between the hardware, the software.And what really did happen? First of all, you should know something about the CDTV. When I started out, said, yeah, I remember that. It was a failure they did in 1990, the time when Commodore was really not in a good shape, but still had the chance to recover. But that turned out not to be true. Actually, the CDTV, it was...It was presented in 1991 in March in the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. 1991! That was a time when Commodore needed to fix their things. They were like one year past the point of no return. The PC did VGA. And the Amiga did better than EGA, but not much.Back in 1997, the Amiga could not be beat. It was almost as good as VGA, but with a fraction of the price tag, and the VGA was not ready yet. But in 1991, the PC was taking off, and Commodore did start up with some really shitty specs, if I may say so. It was an Amiga 500 with a CD-ROM.That was one time speed, which meant that it was slow, like morass. It was yesterday's technology at tomorrow's price. Yeah, you're seeing what this is going to be like.
bit stressed out now, the songs are really short and the software keeps deleting my voice tracks, not fun, but I keep telling the story anyway, just give me some time.
Right, software has screwed up a bit, so I hope you can forgive me that I'm a little bit pressed here with the time. Well, I will tell you about the hardware of the CD-TV in a wee moment. But first, some more music. That would be Amiga Blyn... Who's writing those titles? Blyn Y C Q?
The Ericade Radio Network. We are on YouTube. Righty-ho, back on track. Let's talk about the hardware of the CDTV. Yeah, that was quite a thing. It was 1987 technology, okay? And when I started researching this, I believed that it was released in 1990, which is a little bit too late. That's three years. And back in the 80s, three years was the difference between hardware and...very advanced hardware which looked like alien. I mean just think about it 1982 C64 1985 Amiga first one 1987 Amiga 500 they are so different in what they can do. So 1990 Amiga was kinda hard pressed to keep up with the PC which was getting better and better and better. But that's not the truth. The truth is that it was released the CDTVwas released in 1991, the same year that Commodore released nothing else than the Amiga 600. Two mind boggling mistakes, old hardware, the Amiga 500 with a CDTV and some upgrades, that was what the CDTV hardware wise were. And they had no idea what it was meant to do.I hope I haven't said this before because I lost some of the tracks. Thank you Play It Live. The Amiga 500, yeah, okay, it was old stale technology, but it couldn't even do FMV or full motion video. And that is the reason why the CDTV wasn't called CompactDiscTV and instead had that weird name that was Commodore.dynamic total vision. so what can I say? It's not a good thing and with the hardware not being able to show moving videos. Yeah, they had to redefine the whole concept. It was a set up box that you put on your TV. It was a CD player that can barely play CDs because it was a one time speed slowest player that you could get for money and to make things worse.
If you put the CD player on your TV, you will probably not be able to connect it to your Hi-Fi, so it was on the wrong place with the wrong premises and everything was just not set up well. But you might say, what about the software? Well, let's talk about that.
Yeah, so what about the software? Was that any good? The Amiga pretty much rehashed the old titles, but this time on a CD-ROM, which meant that there was very little new material for this CDTV system. Some I guess, but Commodore was hard-pressed to find exactly what it needed to...breathe a new life into the new machine. So you got the same old games and we're gonna talk about the CD for two. So remember what I'm saying because this problem comes back a few years later. Well, okay, there's one game that was made specifically for the CDTV and it is a laugh fest. It's probably one of the funniest games I've ever seen. Never had it, but I saw it on YouTube and it's crazy.It is some kind of adventure, puzzler, what have you. You land in... Oh yeah, land. It's a train that seems to have wings or whatever. You land in a western town. And if you choose not to continue the game, which it allows you to do, your last point of return, trying to get out of the nightmare that's about to happen, the train flies away. And that's after you kick a child in head.That is a weird game, but if you choose to elect to play the game, pour you, you get off. And not in a good way. Instead you're walking around in a western town, on a horse without a name, jeez, I don't know, but you can walk into a saloon and you can seduce a prostitute. You can walk around trying to steal a horse, and if you do, the horse will kick you to death, and you're chasing some bad guy.Really the plot isn't that important,
It's the shittiest graphics that have any excuse to be. But it wants to be full motion video on a machine as I said that cannot handle it. So what can you do? You do some really crappy animations. I mean GIF animes or wonders. I'd rather look at those than this game. It is a horror. It took until many years later with Kang Fu. I will talk about that.before it was bested of being the worst thing that ever happened to the game industry. By that you do understand that the CDTV was doomed.
This is a song that I want to dedicate to Time Walker on Discord for a reason. Well, he was the one who thought it was fun that one of the songs were called Bullcrap, Christmas Bullcrap. And I agree, it is funny. And now you heard it, that was Christmas Bullcrap. Alright.Thanks for listening guys, I really love the fact that you keep coming with the comments and stuff on Discord. I mean, it makes it much more funny that way. So all of you keep listening. Anyway, we are almost done with the CDTV and the world was almost done with the CDTV pretty soon after it launched. Okay, so you want software. The games are not much to go by. What about productivity?Let's take a little bit of a theoretical lesson in stupidity Commodore style. Assume that you're sitting in your living room with your girlfriend and you just happen to wonder Uruguay how many people live there. Chief says yeah I'm going to check it out. You say I will beat you to it. So you take your CDTV connected to your TV start everything up boot on the CD-ROM thathave the dictionary that Commodore said this is the future of everything after five minutes booting Clicking on icons right around and now you should remember the CDTV unless you bought it had no keyboard So you had to kind of write in your ago I with some other input method and not as sophisticated as a normal smartphone Okay after five minutesYeah, well, you had the answer and your girlfriend looked at you and say, yeah, it took me 30 seconds to go into the library. That is the bookshelf opened up the dictionary and look it up. Well, sorry, Commodore,
Did I mention the CDTV had no keyboard? Yeah, I did. Now good luck trying to, you know, write a document in, I don't know, ProWrite or FinalWriter. You know, those pretty decent to good word processing suits you could buy for the Amiga.but you had to buy the keyboard and you already spent a lot of money on that piece of garbage. I'm sorry, I don't like calling an Amiga a piece of garbage, but I am going to make an exception for the CDTV. So obviously you couldn't do that. And I mean, people are not made of money. You could have bought a real computer for that money. Not a three year old, four year old.
to the end of the second hour. get one more hour and we're gonna talk about the CD32. That's a second try from Commodore to actually build a gaming console. I would say the CDTV somewhere they must have thought it's a gaming console maybe. So you do understand if Commodore doesn't know what they're building it's hard to say if the CD32 was the first or the second gaming console they ever built. But I'm gonna go out with it's a second one.And it was a much better thing. Hardware wise, it was super cool. And time, it was released in a time where it really could have made a difference. But the question of course being is, did it? Yeah, we're gonna talk about that. But let's just wrap up the CDTV. It was not meant to be. And you can of course be very bantering as I am and start laughing about Commodore's stupidity. But no one can predict the future.Hindsight is always 20-20. So what are we gonna do about it? You've probably done mistakes like this yourself and you thought something would be good, but it wasn't. But still, a little bit of foresight. In a world where Commodore's biggest problem was the PC, a train I don't think they really understood that they were looking into the headlights of. And that's never a good thing, is it? Especially not when you're standing on the track.
You are listening to the Eracade Radio Network. Good evening and welcome to another hour of Amiga Retro music. Yeah, good evening. Thank you for listening. It's time for the third hour of the Eracade Radio Network. We're going to play some Christmas music. Not super much, but enough to keep you in the Christmas mood. And we're also going to take a little look at the CD32, the last hurrah of Commodore.
Finspiration and We are going on with a Christmas song called Christmas card 95 nice Yeah, it is but let's talk a little bit about and set up the whole premises for the CD 32 It was not a bad idea It was actually an excellent idea and to a certain point it was also a very excellent execution, but stillYou know this, Commodore is no longer with us, so it cannot have ended well. Of course it didn't. I can pretty much assure you one thing. This is a story, a tragedy, where everyone dies at the end.
You know how you're supposed to tell this story, don't you? Alright. year was 1993. And then some kind of bombastic music, some brown notes that's gonna get your mood into some kind of sad and shaken state. But I can't do no such thing. Instead, let's take it a bit more straight-laced. In 1993, well, things were looking grim. Commodore was really...not in a good situation. The tipping point, as I stated earlier, must have been somewhere around 1991. The CDTV and Amiga 600 had made insurmountable damage to Commodore's reputation and also to their financial status. They were hemorrhaging money, but things were looking better.In second half of 1993 they had another plan. It was a CD32. The first, according to them, 32-bit gaming console. The competing consoles were still a few months away from releasing and it was a power vacuum. If the CD32 were to be successful, you could count on people rushing to get the new thing.Commodore was well positioned to make a difference. And what was the hardware they had for the CD32? Well, the venerable Amiga 1200. Getting a bit older, but still for a console, and you know that consoles are generally weaker in hardware, it was very well prepared for it. It had the specs, the graphics, the capabilities to deal with being a modern...games machine basically. So when it came out in September 1993 it was equipped with a two-time, faster than that is, CD-ROM and basically a cut down 1200. But it had one trick up its sleeve, the Akiko ship, their little magic secret sauce. Well, some music while you ponder on what that could have been.
La di da I need that song like a kick in the head Okay, I stop being so I don't know no pessimistic and stuff, but we're talking about Commodore It's it's easy to become like that. So alright Everything was set up. Everything was ready for the big time. And what about Akiko then?Well, Denise was the fine little ship that made it all happen in the old days. The graphics ship that made Amiga the Amiga basically. The Akiko implemented the AGA chipset. The same chipset that was used in the Amiga 1200 but with a twist. Okay, I'm not gonna go totally technical with you, but there is a difference between plan, bit plane graphics and chunky graphics.Amiga and older computers used bit planes that work a little bit like if you have I don't know like GIMP or Some other kind of drawing program you have layers where you put different things on now imagine layers but with different kind of colors then you have the bit plane and 8 bit planes meant 256 colors 6 bit planes was 32 colors. It's 2 to the power whatever bit planes you're usingBut as a slow method of doing stuff, really slow one, at a higher amount of colors, it's inefficient. But Amiga was built with older technologies with less colors. The PC used something called shunky encoding, which is a more efficient way of making graphics work in a picture or in a movie or something that is very capable when the colors become many.And since most games were made in the PC and had to be converted to Amiga, their key co-chip had a shanky to planner conversion system. Think of it like a very primitive 3D accelerator that would make converting a PC game to Amiga game piece of cake. That was something that Commodore had really figured out. That technology alone made it very promising to cheaply convert the games.
The Commodore Amiga was back in the game again.
Christmas hey ho! Alright, let's try to take this from a less technical standpoint. But you do understand, everything was set up so well. Commodore had the chance, and in September they really released the machine. But it was super expensive in a way that really shook people. But people rushed to it anyway. It sold exceptionally well in Great Britain for an example. And here in Europe I would say three countries stand out as the Amiga,countries par preference. That would be Sweden, Germany, and they were crazy about the Iranians and Great Britain. So everything was fine, but they never sold one single unit in United States. So it was kinda a bit of a Pyrrhic victory here, but they were sold during on. Well, we're gonna talk about the software and that's where it becomes very painful, but let's talk about the hardware. Okay, it was very well specified.It was very good hardware specs as I said, the other units could not compete or were at least as good as the CD32. But Commodore did run into problems and ended up for reasons I don't have time to go into, not being able to release enough units. The sales therefore dwindled because yeah, well there was a shortage. And as you probably know, if you can't meet up with the Christmas sales, you're done for.and Christmas 1993 the CD32 more or less went off the market. Commodore on the other hand went into 1994 having pretty much solved their economic problems. The deficits were by and large eradicated or at least under control and the whole deficit situation were gone. It's a great situation except a problem they had nothing to sell.
we have not forgotten about the Christmas promise. Next thing is gonna be a Christmas hit collection. But we are soldier on with the CB32. With the whole idea of not being able to sell anything, Commodore had nowhere to go. In April of 1994, it was over. The 29th of April.That was the day when Commodore hit reconstruction under Chapter 11. That was the end. They said we're coming out of it, but in order to do so, you must have some kind of viable income they had none. So that eventually spelt end of the saga. We can talk about what happened later, but that for some other flashback program. The CD32 was, well, discontinued.But there is one more story. They actually attacked, seriously, mercenaries attacked the factories after Commodore's foreclosure because they wanted to confiscate the CD32s because they had a value. That's how far that went. And who sent the mercenaries? Well, the people that Commodore had, know, what do you say, they owed money to basically.So that's how far it went. You can probably understand that it was nothing you could do back then. But could it have gone better? Let's take a look at the software. Was that such a bad thing?
hit collection and we are in a Christmas mood yet again so some will come here and yeah we will never talk about Christmas again after this one until next well year at the same time because that's how we do it okay that's how we always do it so the games yeah Commodore could have done great strides in instilling confidence but they did quite opposite they give different stories to differentgame developer studios on how the product would work and how they would go about selling the stuff. Plus, Commodore, everybody knew this, was pretty close to bankruptcy. That meant that the companies, the game studios, did safe bet the whole thing. They took old games, put new interest on them, and new music and sold them as new.This meant pretty much that they repeated the mistakes that were made with the CDTV. This also means another thing. Whatever games that were new would have to bear the load of the whole operation. And that was not meant to happen. Because one of the most famous games that Commodore did put out was a beat up game. I don't even remember its name. That happened to be just such a shitty game that there were many moregood games that Commodore could have chosen, but they put that on as the game, the bundle of the console. That was a really serious mistake. And a very highly anticipated game was a robot beat up and creation game, which had superb graphics for the time, really utilizing the Amiga hardware, but it also turned out to be a crappy game. And yeah, well, that pretty much sealed the fate of the CD32, the hardware that couldand the software that didn't.
Christmas Mix 92. We're going to enter a Christmas orgy. Yeah, that's the name of it. Doesn't seem too bad, but really, I don't have time for that. We gotta finish and wrap this thing up. So what was it with the CD32? We can discuss it as much as we want to, but it's yet another one of those failures that are so easy to just blame on bad foresight, because foresight is always bad.But we can also notice that the timing was right and a number of coincidences and number of mistakes. It is like the Fuller Memorandum, a book written in the Atrocity Archives series. It has a wonderful quote that says, one fuck up is seldom alone. It is a series of strings of errors leading up to it. And that was what it was.That's the only thing I can explain it as. But it's a sad thing and maybe we come back to that always existing explanation to pretty much everything. And that is that the home computer era was over. This may have been the last thing they could do, but they failed. As most companies eventually fail. That is a rule. That is something...Something called survivor bias really. You only remember the companies that made it. Not the ones, the money that were left by the curbside as a warning to everyone else.
for awesome early light. Okay, so let's end that thing for good now. No more speaking about Commodore. Let's remember the good things, the Amiga tunes that we still have around us. And of course, the whole retro thing, which encompasses stuff like gaming consoles, PCs, Macintoshes, old ancient IBM PCs, the Amiga, of course, Atari, C64, Sinclair Spectrum.We have played games since the late 50s, one of the first games ever released that I know of was made on an oscilloscope. Seriously. I mean, it is a grand tradition really and it will continue long. The latest game I got my hands on is Cyberpunk 2077 and when I look at it, it's amazing. The whole journey that we've gone through.The Ericade Radio Network. Best enjoyed in the glow of your modem's lights.
So what's up with the Christmas then? Are we going to leave Ericade Radio Network basically pumping air? Doesn't seem so actually. As I have to stay at home, the corona being what it is, it is clear that I will have lot of time to record stuff, but I will want to do something good, not just pumping up a number of podcasts that nobody really wants. So I'm gonna have to see if I can...think out something smart. But still the question if you think I should tell stories like this or just playing music with short little stories, please I need to know this. I need to know where you stand on this. Is it important to hear my voice or listen to the music or both? Give me some kind of hint here. I really need to know.
Yid-Maniac and after that, well, we are gonna have the Christmas remix looking over at Discord some comments about, you know, Dragon Age. We spoke about that in a few episodes ago and the point I was making was simply that some endings are great others are not and when you think about it maybe we should have a discussion about which games in themselves that are not goodAnd maybe we shouldn't talk about modern games, but at some episode I will talk about the games that let us down. I don't know when that's gonna come out. I'm a bit busy right now, but it would be interesting to see those things. And one game sticks out that I remember that I hated having paid. I was quite young and for my first money that I got, my first allowance, so to speak, I bought a game called Roger Rabbit and it was a game based on the movie.Well caveat emptor you're supposed to say buyer beware, but I young and dumb I guess because conversions from movies are often shitty games Well as a subject for another day,
Well, that was the last Christmas tune I have. I burned through all of them. And in a nick of time because Saint Nick? No, stop doing that, Erik. Focus, focus, focus. It's actually time to say goodbye right now. The Amiga Flashback 3-hour Christmas special, what do you want to call it, is over. And when I look into this phone data thing, it's still going out there.but it's also winding up here slowly. So I'm gonna go back, drink some of this OP, this overpowered if you want to vodka with seasoning that is so Swedish. Bränvin, that's the thing. I know I said it. I'm gonna say it again. That is the shit. Thanks you for listening. This is the DJ Demon. The me that is. That is soon gonna hit the sack and sleep becauseThat is the funnest thing in my age that you can do in a bird.
Christmas tune is leading you out into that good night. Don't walk into the light. But otherwise, yeah, stay safe out there. Corona is making a third, second, fourth, whatever comeback. So you might want to be a bit careful out there because death is something you just catch once. And remember, we are available on radio.erikade.net. Support this station if you like it. No, you don't have to pay me anything, but...keep forwarding the message. Tell your friends that hey, listen to this because it helps. Bye bye now.
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Started in december 2020, Amiga Flashback was the first name of "Flashback, tracks from the past". It features nice midnight DJ banter from DJ Daemon, interviews, discussions about retro-stuff and lots of tracked music. Most of it is Amiga tracked tunes. In May 2021, it was renamed and started allowing all kinds of tracked tunes instead of mostly Amiga ones.
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He got his Commodore 64 in 1989 and his first Amiga in 1990. A huge fan of tracker music and have had a long standing dream to create a radio show playing that kind of music. In 2020, that dream came true and in december Amiga Flashback started as a podcast. It was later renamed Flashback, tracks from the past and here we are.
He is also an orga for Swedish demo party Edison and a total retro nerd.
He was actually a listener from the time of the first ericade-station in the 00s. He came back as a listener in 2020, when the station restarted. Later he voluntered to build the new website of the station and also joined as a cohost of the podcast. He runs his own site called the Retro spirit.
Fellow retro geek and creator of great music on his daw.
He describes himself like this: "Pure 8-bit chiptunes! All Tekmann music are solely made on Gameboy units modded to perfection... No computer producing just pure chiptune bliss ;)".
A true retro geek and sysop from the 90s. He lives with his family in Sweden and enjoys sharing his passion for retro computing and music. He is sysop for Swedish BBS "This old cabin".
Created a report about Impulsetracker for us in 2022. Also voiced our messages for christmas 2022 in co-operation with the Retro spirit.
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