160. Sunday, the last day of Revision 2026

This is the Ericade Radio Network. We're now going live from a remote location. Yes, we are back from revision or to revision or whatever revision. How is everything, Coreus?speaker-1

I got a question for you. What is blinking? What is having technical difficulties? What is having the morning glory with Dojo and Defox?speaker-2

Thanks.speaker-0

I don't know pretty much everything herespeaker-1

It's revision 2026 and everybody in it.speaker-0

yeah of course, it's total mayhem here and everybody is, I'm just kidding, everybody's sitting here in my sofa broadcasting some sort of discussion, but we are also herespeaker-1

It's a pretty somber experience here this morning, live from Revision 2026, day three, where we made it, we're live!speaker-0

Yeah we are. It's a bit of a bank holiday here in Germany so it was hard to get an Uber to get here so we are a little bit late.speaker-1

And on stage, D-Fox and Dojo has their traditional morning glory and they're interviewing Racer1911. And they're talking about how the scene was and what it has evolved into. It's a pretty interesting one. You can go to twitch.tv slash revisionparty or just revision-party.net and check it out for yourself.If you're interested in the scene and how in real talk from real sceneers that have been around for a while, definitely check that out either now or post-package.speaker-0

Yeah, but should we really plug the competition? No, they may leave usspeaker-1

No, they're soon done, you can listen to it post-fact.speaker-0

Absolutely. And so, what can you do with this? If you miss this, we'll have it up on YouTube in a few days from now.speaker-1

So the last day that we'll broadcast from revision, right?speaker-0

It is, is. Tomorrow we have to go home.speaker-1

But the revision actually continues for a bit tomorrow as well.speaker-0

Yeah, just one thing,speaker-1

There's voting and there's some award ceremony.speaker-0

So if you win with your thing you won't be able to receive the award.speaker-1

I won't, but still. There are some things happening tomorrow. Yesterday was an eventful day of course with many of the heavy hitter competitions going on. Of course one of them was the old PC demo, or sorry, the old demo and Amiga competition. Mod, track, tracker, combo. It's early, I can't think really straight, but...speaker-0

Yes, you sound super tipped.speaker-1

Hard. Thanks. You know how to give compliments.speaker-1

You have been... We were planning on starting half past eleven, that didn't happen, and then you didn't get the transportation ready. It's a... Easter Sunday is pretty busy and people haven't woken really up yet, it seems.The next or first song of the hour I've taken from Dojo actually. He was talking about his first mod tracker music that he listened to was a gesture of sanity and elysium. So I think that's a fitting start to day three of Revision 2026. Welcome!speaker-0

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Quite a song if you ask me, that would be Elysium by Jester of Sanity. This is EriKade Radio and we're broadcasting live from Saarbrucken. Saarbrucken. Revision. yeah, yeah. Day three and the last one. And they're talking here on the screen about various things, but soon there's some kind of competitions coming up,speaker-1

Day 3speaker-1

Yes, we have three composes starting about now. It's executable music, streaming music and modern graphics. So that will probably start soon.speaker-3

great party someday.speaker-0

Yeah, the end. Morning glory with a dojo and defox. It's the end of that. Yeah.speaker-1

I'm eating some breakfast while you talk.speaker-0

Yeah, I can hear your... Yeah, nice to listen to.speaker-1

Of course, gotta give maximum enjoyment.speaker-0

ASMR from hell.speaker-1

ASMR for that. I'm actually checking the playlist of today and I'm wondering if the next one is correct but I'll have to double check here. Where is the... Have you updated? Have you updated?speaker-0

Yeah, I have a tie. Totally.speaker-1

I don't see it's been updated. I don't see day three here on the list. Day two? Day three, okay. yeah. it is. Okay.speaker-0

I have to know to search.speaker-1

So the next one should be Amiga Never Dies with Alistair Brimble from the looks of it. And then we're going to have a great one, Gods by Richard Joseph. That's actually from the Gods game. here are two classic tunes from Alistair Brimble, a very famous tracker artist.Richard Joseph from a very well-known even though the game is not that very good. I No, no, no, no the platforming sucks and Like the later. Yeah, the graphics and the music is okay, but like the later levels and platforming and stuff is is horrible I played the game and it's it It relied heavily on the audio presentation visual audio presentationspeaker-0

So awesome, it's a really good one.speaker-0

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Into the wonderfulYeah, yeah, this is the same game. The game that actually had some mild nudity in it as well. It did? Just like with the first Storm Lord. Here, let me show you.speaker-0

Okay, okay. We might have to go on with the music, I swear. No, no, no. Okay, okay. You get on board, listeners. Okay, sure.speaker-1

God's here, looking at God from 90s. And if you look, actually it doesn't have it here, but yeah. Okay, I didn't have it on Retro Spirit. But yeah, I mean, it looks nice, sounds nice, but place, meh.speaker-0

for a Tokyo.speaker-0

Okay, yeah platformers all kind of like thatspeaker-1

No, but Genesis is great.speaker-0

Absolutely, but that's a ripoff of Mario Brothers, so how hard could it be?speaker-1

That's debatable, but alright, let's go with some more.speaker-2

Music!speaker-0

It's truth in advertisement. It's a dead Amiga never dies. Yeah, we said that a number of times, so...speaker-1

Amiga! And that's a sentiment that Democene really likes to shout.speaker-0

Absolutely and for a good reason Amiga is awesomespeaker-1

They were at the Morning Glory with Dojo and DeFox. They were talking to Racer 1911 earlier. And there were some interesting points there about how the demo scene is the last bastion of human creation in a way in a digital landscape that's turning more and more into automation and using AI and that crap to make stuff happen.speaker-3

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That is a bit of the problem, I would say, because a whole generation grows up now knowing nothing else than AI can be used to do anything.speaker-1

So that was a very interesting take and it's a very important, they bring up a very important message. That's important to echo here at the world's biggest demo scene event in the world.speaker-0

Absolutely, yeah. This, this jingle here, isn't it kinda getting a bit annoying?speaker-1

The I kind of like it, even though it's a cheesy as hell. And now the executable music compo is next up behind us.speaker-0

Yeah, I know.speaker-0

Yeah, and it has a robot in the video.speaker-1

I kind of like this actually. It has some 80s, 70s. First compo block of the day, executable music. What does executable music mean?speaker-0

Yeah, yeah, yeahspeaker-2

of the day.speaker-0

I think it's like you have music as an executable like Amiga Clang or something you simply make it run as a program or something so that's but generally it's it's a music playing when you start itspeaker-1

So you double click and you get the music.speaker-0

Yeah, instead of loading it into something like ProTrack or whatever.speaker-1

Okay, so, alright, okay, I see. So I thought executable music actually in the beginning when I first saw it was a .exe file. But only that. But that's only on PC. So on Amiga you would have a different format and that's still executable.speaker-0

Yeah, but it is, Yeah, but it's an- Yeah, yeah,speaker-1

Does C64 have an executable format?speaker-0

Yes it does, but it does not call itself EXE, it's PGM or something? Can't remember right now. I don't know, I don't do Atari. Okay, I'm gonna stop doing it, but actually honestly I don't know actually how that's working. But executable files I believe exist in all computers. It's kind of the most basic format of code that has been compiled, right?speaker-1

What about the Atari?speaker-1

What about the self-contained files? I know that sometimes you have self-contained files that contains everything in them. Like the player and... Well, I guess this is it.speaker-0

Is it? yeah, I missed it.speaker-1

What is happening? Are you tripping me up here? I guess executable music has the player and all that stuff embedded or does it not? If you have executable for Amiga and you double click that thing, does it fire up your Amiga player as well?speaker-0

Yeah, absolutely.speaker-0

I don't know, think it's self-contained one. At least if you look at Amiga Klang, it's basically the player and the music. You just double-click on it and it plays for you.speaker-1

Right, so everything you need, the kitchen sink is included. We are in the background, started the first entry of the executable music from Salad Rifter, so Starbuck, and he says it's made with the Soil 2 for your pleasure. And while that is going, we will now listen into the wonderful.speaker-0

That's the whole plan.speaker-0

From a demo party live with your hosts DJ Damon and Coriusspeaker-2

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Wonderful! And I believe that me and Chris have very varying ideas of how good that game actually was. He didn't like it very much, I do.So, yeah, we are doing the executable music here and Corious is out running somewhere. Actually, we have some really cool interviews coming up this day. I won't talk more about it right now, but stay put for some cool stories from the really nice sinners around here. This is a new kind of demo scene, kinder, gentler, and with a lot of people that are more tolerant. Back in my day, they could be pretty hostile, and it was the lamer thing going on.Anyway, we are going on with Sveings and Flutterna very item.speaker-0

So that was beautiful, was Flutana Variata here on Erricade.Radio. And well, we are lining up some interviews that will be put on this show in a few minutes or maybe an hour, I don't know. But we'll keep playing the music and tell you like it is.Right now the executable music competition is running here on revision and it's Disco Juggler, something by an artist calling him or herself AniMark.So yeah, that's good. If you are here, you should definitely listen to it and you should vote if you can because votes are awesome. Yeah, you can go to the voting site there and simply do that. More competitions coming up and stuff like that. But right now I don't have much more to add. So we are going on with the music. I just...probably didn't know, but Alexander Brandon, the guy who made Jazz Jackrabbit, he also created a number of other songs. I did not know this, but the Unreal Tournament music is also by him. Really, really something you should remember, or maybe you heard it. Here it comes, the Unreal Tournament music.speaker-3

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Yeah, that's great memories from way back when. And if you're listening to Flashback, our podcast that comes out every week when we have the time.You should know that we are in the pattern of reviewing old games. had games such as Bioshock, Sci-Fi, The Trading Company, and yes, Shacknor is a kicking game as well, and a number of other ones. Geotopia, you might actually remember. And in a few weeks from now, we have another game which kind of started the whole FPS genre, if you want to, and we're gonna talk about that. So you can go to erikade.radio and check the flashback site, the podcast.Well, it's not out yet, but in a few weeks as I said, you will have a review of a game that well, you know changed the whole world such as it is So we are waiting here the executable music competition is still on and now it's a song called a frog and the abyssby Sunspire. Yeah, it's really good. And if you like this, you should know that in a few days from now, they will be putting it out on the FTP site and later it will come to Modarchive, the ones that are appropriate for that. And we will also make a flashback episode where we talk about and admire the top-list music from here, because it's been good so far, I can tell you that much. So next up is MilianNick Schur and San Gene.speaker-0

Yeah, that was Alexander Brandon with Unreal Main Theme. I was just kidding. It's actually a mixture with OCC San Gino that's coming up in a few seconds here. But first we're talk a little bit about what's going on.Well, we're still in the executable music part of the revision here so the whole Sunday is pretty busy with a number of the nice competitions and The Koreans is busy trying to write some interesting interview questions for the upcoming interviews won't tell you more about that Right now, but I come back to it in a fewI don't know, minutes or maybe an hour. We will keep broadcasting until somewhere around 4 o'clock here in Revision in Saarbrucken in Germany. This is Ericade.radio. I'm DJ Demon and Kurios is sitting here by my side. So we're going on and now it is that song. It's coming to you live.speaker-1

We chose the worst time to start talking.speaker-0

Yeah, absolutely, no doubt about that.speaker-1

But apparently they're using web GPU to create music. Words? That's... It's really weird. That was Oxan Gin by Looking at Modarchive. That's actually Uncle Tom.speaker-0

okay.speaker-0

I think there might be two different names for the same artist.speaker-1

Okay, it's a highly rated monodle and for good reason it's a banger as the commenters are saying.speaker-0

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it totally is. No doubt about it.speaker-1

And it's from looking at the... let's see... it doesn't say a year but I'm gonna guess 99 for some obscure reason. Yeah, Uncle Tom and Scoop X released in... oh sorry, 99, 89.speaker-0

No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahspeaker-1

So it's a mature old vintage.speaker-3

It's a...speaker-0

Mature old vintage, I mean that's three words for the same thing, isn't it?speaker-1

Yeah, but we need more adjectives here at Provision 2026. Live from Everk in Saarbrucken in south-western, south Germany. And a lot of people have already braved the night and have stayed over. Some have just woken up, started on their productions.And some have not yet returned from last year's acid rave. You remember that?speaker-0

Yeah, I don't think there's much acid going on here people are probably a little bit I don't think that's the kind of barterspeaker-1

They called it acid rave when they were up on the main stage at thespeaker-0

Yeah, I know, but it's kind of like harkening back to old memories rather than actually... I don't think they allow drugs here. Not to say there isn't the occasional person that does it anyway, but we don't know.speaker-1

No, but the... yeah, yesterday the Deutsche Rave was hitting hard. It was quite something to behold, both for... Yeah, it was attack on the senses in many ways. And let's see, the next one is a good one. It's actually from Age of Wonders.speaker-0

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a game from 1999, where you play as one out of two factions, either light or dark side, and you have to fight the other one. And Michel van den Boos did the song for the first level of the light side, where you control the halflings. Well, you don't actually control the halflings, it's elves, I believe. Let's see.speaker-0

Halflings are elves, right? It's kind of like... Elves and humans have fun and then it's a halfling, right? No? What? No, wait, maybe I don't...speaker-1

Now, I'm wondering who's on acid now.speaker-0

Yeah, I'm I'm just old.speaker-1

Old and weird. No, no. I'm just joking. The fragile balance between ancient races of elves, dwarves, orcs and others have changed into a struggle for power and survival in the wake of the turmoil that the humans have brought to the land. So it's a strategy game. It's a very good one, actually, but it's very hard. Even the first level, I remember using a lot of time just toget past and this is from the first level of the light side with March of the Halflings. A great one, very nice.speaker-0

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game a few minutes ago, Gianna Sisters. Do you have any memories from that?speaker-1

I remember we talked about it yesterday when we... No, did we talk about today? yeah, we talked about today. Yeah, it's early and we are a bit dizzy from...speaker-0

Yeah, we're talking.speaker-0

We are. I'm just confused and very stressed out.speaker-1

Your phone was calling earlier and you said that the phone should not be calling otherwise we will drop out.speaker-0

yeah, thing is if you respond to the call, the network, the data network disconnects and that will kinda... Why do people have to use their phone to call? When was the last time anyone did that?speaker-1

Screw up the whole thing. Yeahspeaker-1

Well, you're on the phone all the time, but...speaker-0

Yeah, but I'm old. I have a permit for that.speaker-1

Yes, so no wonder people are calling you. But I remember Gianna Sisters and... the... The game that many think is a rip-off of Super Mario Bros. Yeah, well, there are people who debate otherwise as well. But there was actually a remake, actually two remakes, one remake on the...speaker-0

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But it is.speaker-0

Okay, okay.speaker-1

Nintendo DS, which is actually very good. And then there's Gianna's Sister's Twisted Dreams on the PlayStation 4, which is also very nice. it's the... Let's see here. Gianna'sspeaker-0

But you do know that Nintendo forced the developer to not release the game. Actually it was released a few weeks but then it was removed from the shelves. So everybody who's played Gears of the Sisters probably did do so by piracy copying it.speaker-1

or borrowing a copy from a friend.speaker-0

That's another way of saying it.speaker-1

But the first remake was in 2009 for the Nintendo DS. That game is pretty easy but it's also very fun and charming. I like it a lot. And the Twisted Dreams had... ... sisters... sisters... see. Twisted Dreams. That came out in 2012.where they did a bit of a switch where you played the sisters where one was very light-hearted and the other one had a dark side and you switched on the fly so the platform and the world would change as you change so if you jumped in the light world then you perhaps there was not a platform that you could jump on then you needed to switch to the dark world and thenthere was a platform there, so you would like me to switch in mid-air.speaker-0

Yeah, it had some sort of idea, novel idea that I can give you. Another cool thing you could do is you could use the peak and poke code on the C64 version.speaker-1

You have to turn my volume bit up because the streaming music is playing in the background.speaker-0

Okay, okayIt's kind of hard. We're doing what we can here, but we can't ask them to turn it off. It's kind of not our show here. But you can use the peak and poke codes on the C64 version in order to change color of the hair of all them and stuff. Really? Yeah, absolutely.speaker-1

Let's see, the soundtrack was by Twisted Dreams, made by Chris Hulsbeck and Maschina Supremacy. So, legends both of them.speaker-0

Yeah, mean, Yulspek is sorta kinda the man that made Turrican what it became.speaker-1

yeah, we should play Turiken as well.speaker-0

Absolutely, but you can't it's a copyrightedspeaker-1

it is. Okay. So we can play the first level too.speaker-0

No, sorry, no candy youspeaker-1

But what we can do is play the title from Joanna Sisters, which is a great alternative and the one next coming up.speaker-0

Here it is.speaker-0

And it isn't any demo party, it's a very specific one. Revision 2026. Here is me, Didi Demon and Kourios. And what's up?speaker-1

We are live in the middle of the streaming music combo. It's song number two, Paolo Crogiante by Romeo Knight, I believe.speaker-0

think it's pojo, pojo, I don't know, I don't speak Spanish but it's chicken pojo, pojo, pojo, pojo, pojo, pojo, pojo, pojo, pojo,speaker-1

Yeah, I don't know what the second word means. Let's see.speaker-0

I hope it's not some nasty words here. I don't think they do that anymore But back in the day it was very common that some very innocent tracker music modules could have really nasty names and totally fine contentspeaker-1

Let's see, it means crunchy chickenspeaker-0

crunchy chicken. That's the best one.speaker-1

It's very safe, very good. And very good is the next one on the playlist. It's Alexander Brandon from the game Unreal. This was actually back when he composed tracks for Epic Games. has made many soundtracks for both Unreal and Unreal Tournament.along with Michiel van den Bosch. Actually, according to the Vicky here, he works as an audio director at Obsidian Entertainment, who made, among others, Pillars of Eternity and New Vegas. And they also made the new A-WOW-ed game. But he has made some absolute bangers. And this is the foundry from Unreal, which isspeaker-0

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Yeah, this is the Unreal. So Unreal is where the Unreal Engine started. So it's... No, not surprising. And yeah, it's from Unreal Gold, apparently. as Solaris on ModArchive says, goosebumps.speaker-0

Okay, Not surprising though.speaker-0

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Yeah, dig me some Alexander Brandon, a lot of unreal stuff going on and also his Jazz Jackrabbit, really popularfrom a forgotten artist who has done a lot of good stuff. You're tuned to Ericcade.radio and we are broadcasting live from Revision 2026 and right now it's Danko of Fairlight. Yeah, that Danko and a song called Time that's popular right now. It's number four on this list. It's streaming music. We're have so much good stuff to play on the station once this is done.But you have to wait a few days or even weeks before it comes online because you obviously understand that you can't play it before they have published it and they won't publish it before it has been heard here and of course voted on. So if you're at revision, take time out to really vote for the songs so we can get a winner or two.Well, we are going on to some more music, here's a favorite one. It's Glyn R. Brown and PCWtune88.speaker-0

And coverage, live coverage from Revision here. We're still in the streaming music combo here and looking at the timetable we can see that next up is modern graphics. However that may be. Yes, that's what it looks like.speaker-1

I just jumped in and I'm excited to hear what you were saying.speaker-0

Yeah, I'm just commenting on the timetable what's going on here. And it seems like we are in the middle of this competition block with executable music, streaming music and now modern graphics. Soon, modern graphics. And looking into the afternoon, we can see that half past two here, we have the Cooler Master 3D printing combo. Then it's...4 o'clock it's fast music 4k executable graphics homeschool graphicsspeaker-1

And a lot of just compos back to back from 4 o'clock. But after the streaming music compo we will have an interview with actually two scene-ers. That will be interesting to hear what they have to say. Look forward to that.speaker-0

Yes, that's how it is. This is Eric K. The Dot Radio and we are going on with some more music. It's actually Joss and Amaze. And it's called an AI-generated title.speaker-1

But it's not AI generated music.speaker-0

It is definitely not we don't play that.speaker-1

Made by humans.speaker-0

For humans, by humans.speaker-3

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In a few weeks from now Flashback will resume its retro gaming coverage. So we're gonna talk some about this retro stuff. Some old games that we will cover. And if you have an idea of an old C64, Amiga or retro PC game that you want me to talk about. Playing some music and come up with some more philosophical ideas about the game. Well, then send an email to me.Radio at erikade.net or go to our Discord server. We are available at erikade.radio slash discord. Join our server and talk back. This is erikade.radio and we are broadcasting live from Revision 2026 in Saarbrucken. Well, in a few hours from now we will sign off somewhere around 4 PM here.But we'll be with you for throughout the whole afternoon. Such as it is. Some more music, you say, and I say absolutely that's the plan. We are going on with foundation, shaker and the full metal jacket. And it's called very aptly, Commodore's Revenge.speaker-0

A weakness that was a Commodore and some sort of revenge there. I guess they are still mad at Atari, right?speaker-1

I don't know. The streaming music compo behind this is going on. Jogail Lillidal with Retro Pearls was just on. A very sweet 80s inspired tune with the mellow and candy like sounds. And now it's BOT, one of the main organizers at Travision. If it's the same handle with the hats up.speaker-0

Okay, yeahspeaker-1

The streaming music compo is still going but after this we will talk to two seniors. It will be very interesting to see what they, or hear what they have to say. And we played some Alexander Brandon previously from Unreal Gold. Not Unreal Tournament, not anything other Unreal than just Unreal. And it's the first one.which made Unreal Engine a thing that it is today. It's really weird to see that, or just realize that the massive multi-millionaire company that is Epic Games today made its footing with Unreal and that engine that has been used ever since.speaker-0

Yeah, it's kind of weird. Everything has, as I say, humble beginnings. But this was kind of monumental, if you remember Unreal Tournament and Unreal Series of Games. Really something special. I don't know, it's kind of like... had its heyday back in the 90s. You remember Half-Life, you remember Doom, course, Duke Nukem and all that. Quake, absolutely no doubt about it.speaker-1

Let's not forget Quake!We talked to Oilheap yesterday, he mentioned the Chaser, a game from Bratislava, which is an obscure game from 2003. And he talked about they were modding that game because the developers were providing the SDK so they could use it for developing their own content and maps.speaker-0

Yeah, that's a good thing because it kinda invites the whole community to do stuff. And the modding community has always been very talented for most big games.speaker-1

As long as there is interest, is always talented people who will make content for it. Unreal Tournament was no exception. There were a lot of fan-made levels, if you joined a random server, that people were playing. And some of the most famous ones actually became like a staple into the Unreal Tournament. I forget if it was the gold edition there as well, but like the anniversary collection or something like that. Collection of the millennium.I'll actually look up what the Unreal Tournament collections were called. They included some user submitted levels.speaker-0

little bit of a sidebar while you're searching for that. If you remember the whole idea with modding games was kind of like a grassroots moment so to speak but later on it became more and more commercialized in a way that a lot of game makers created their own walled gardens. I'm looking at you Bethesda and Fallout. Suddenly you need to use their own site to use and distribute mods andAnd that has its problem as well, if you know what I mean.speaker-1

Yeah, the creation club from Bethesda. Suddenly you had to use their... But that's the way they had to go if they wanted to add mods or provide mods for people playing on console. Which they allowed. Like, they made it a reality.speaker-0

Yeah, I don't know, maybe it's for the better, but I kind of have a feeling that it sucks the whole niceness out of the whole thing instead of becoming something you want to do, it's gamification and the...speaker-1

It's a dampener perhaps on creativity and what you can do. But consoles are limited in a way that PC aren't.speaker-0

Yeah, that's very much. I can totally get that.speaker-1

PC and computing in general is what we're celebrating here at Revision 2026 from Saarbrucken in Germany where there's a lot of still a lot of people here either collaborating just meeting up with friends they talk to online or just having a fun time with some great music.speaker-0

And great music it is. So we are going on with such a...speaker-1

Actually, I'm I wanna throw you a curveball.Curveballs are the name of the game this time. We had some yesterday and I think we're gonna have one here with Mind Riot from Mr. Man of Andromeda. My notes here says that it's an extravagant, bold and loud tune. Sometimes silent and moody, but...speaker-0

Good day.speaker-1

Just wait for it, this tune is quite something else. While it sounds and takes some time to figure out what the song actually is, once it does, it's something on a different level. Play this fun tune on a high volume.speaker-0

Absolutely, but first, which one is the theme or just the mind riot?speaker-1

I think it's my dryest, bottom one there.speaker-0

Now, okay, it's coming to you right now, right here.speaker-0

from a demo party live with your host DJ Damon and Corius yes here we are still broadcasting live and we are preparing for the interview that will come soonspeaker-1

Yes, that was Mind Riot from Mr. Man of Andromeda. That tune has some parts and then just breaks into a really likeable riff. quite something else. And let's see, looking at the notes here, I'm going to throw you another curveball right off the bat. And this time, I'm going to... My note says that DJ Demon, you pronounced this title...mispronounced the title of this song last year. Let's see if you can get it right. Dinner at...speaker-0

Great show.Rachel, Rachel, I can say it, I can say it.speaker-1

Yes, by Nighthawk. And this time you got it right, so you get the tune as a bonus.speaker-1

been restored.speaker-0

been on for quite a while we have been broadcasting since Thursday so we have something around I don't know 20 hours of the broadcast under our belts so that is something that's going to go up on YouTube next week you can listen to all the broadcasts all the music all the interviews and the coverage so count on itYou can go to youtube.com and search for Ericade Space, that is a radio and then can find our channel. We also broadcast live over Twitch and YouTube so you can search there as well. Or just remain on the web page or use your software, your application, screamer radio, audacity, what have you, what not.Most players, even an old Amiga can play on erokade.radio. We have a legacy stream that works perfectly fine with an Atari Falcon or an Amiga 3200 or some sort of accelerated Amiga. That's kinda awesome, How many radiizations can you hear on your Amiga? Well, erokade.radio counts. So, okay, that was Nighthawk and we are going on with some more music.It's Eivind Sommerstein, brand new on this station. It's scratching Schwantes returns.speaker-0

Righty-ho! Eivind Somersdén, really our favorite of mine. think he's super talented, really. I actually heard him first on the A-Rock demo party a few years back. This was, well, it's kinda, you know, Slay Radio territory. We don't generally broadcast that much of that music. We more like track music, not that many remixes. But of course we have them, and we like them.Oh, what's going on now? It's coming up, modern graphics. It's kind of the competition where they show what you can do with pretty modern computing. Not Amiga, not Atari, not C64. Something like contemporary PC, that is. This is EricK.Radio. You are listening to our coverage from Revision 2026 and we are really, really here.So if you are in the room here or close to the E-Works industrial park here, what you call it, you can come visiting us. We are at the newcomer part of the whole thing. we have some guests coming in. Can you tell us a little bit about it?speaker-1

There.speaker-0

Okay, we're going on with some more music here and it's time for Elgar and the Lust for Life.speaker-0

Hello people, it's time for an interview. What do you say, Kurios?Hello, are you there? Yeah, we're have two Senors with us.speaker-1

we're live right now? Okay, let's see. Can we play one more song so I can brief them a bit and then we'll come back to the interview.speaker-0

Absolutely no problems, we are going on with some more music, but stay put, they're coming online.speaker-1

And it's a fitting tune, firing up, because we're firing up.speaker-0

The Ericade Radio Network. By humans for humans. No AI music.speaker-1

Exactly. We're live from revision 2026 here in Saarbrucken, Germany. That's four days of digital pwnage. That's with a four and a three as revision themselves call it. Much of that pwnage is thanks to the people coming here, contributing to the competitions or just contributing to the good moods either online or locally at the venue. And now we're graced by two of them that are at the venue and at the table. It's Nebula and Fibonacci. Welcome, sir.speaker-2

Graves? Wow! Hello, hello, hello!speaker-1

Very nice to have you here and actually one of first times we have two people so DJ Demon can test his equipment with two or actually four mics.speaker-0

Yeah, it's kinda stress getting everything working, but I think you can hear us.speaker-1

And yeah, we're not usually like sitting in a like, ideally we were sitting looking at each other like eye to eye, but now we have to sit a bit like to the side, but we'll manage. Yeah, it is. First off, could you introduce yourself a bit like where are from and how, did you get there?speaker-2

It's the nature of Bardeen,speaker-2

So my name is Nebula, in real world known as Niels. I'm a musician, I'm from the Netherlands and we're just here to have a good time and well to compete a bit. Yeah and I'm Fibonacci also known as Glenn. This is my first demo scene event. I'm musician as well, like live music, metal and by day a boring infosec guy.speaker-1

Yeah. Yeah. Cool.speaker-1

Infosec. Well, we need them as well. So are you staying for the whole party or? Did you come here on Friday?speaker-2

Yeah, yeah, the Wolf Course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A bit late, but yeah. The car had some other plans.speaker-1

How was the travel here?speaker-2

Yeah, a bit bumpy. We were here with the camper. We were just staying outside in the parking lot. At least for the sleeping. But unfortunately we had some metal on metal smell. we're like, we're not going to take the risk. have to first see a guy. But it was fine. That's right.speaker-1

Inspekt. And you're both from Netherlands. So how long was the drive over here?speaker-2

Man, it flew by. We haven't seen each other for long time, so we had a lot to catch up on. you know each Yeah, we're friends.speaker-1

Have you attended other demo parties together or separately? Like now?speaker-2

Nebula has, like I said this is my first one so there's a lot of new, there's a lot of input, a lot of new things to learn and experience. And I meet friends here, yes, also from the Netherlands of course and Belgium.speaker-1

Yeah, definitely. What would you do Namblo?speaker-1

Yeah, very cool. Let's see, how are you finding revision so far? You mentioned Fibonacci, haven't been here before. Had you been here before? Yes. How are you finding revision so far this year?speaker-2

Yes.speaker-2

Yeah, it's kind of what I expected. Good atmosphere. Yeah, nice people. Very positive overall, yes.speaker-1

Very nice. And what about you, Finvall? It's our first time here as but would be interesting to hear what fellow newcomers like us...speaker-2

Yeah man, mean it's overwhelming in the best of ways because everything that you look at is interesting in its own right and I mean it's always nice to be in such an energy where everyone's passionate about the same thing and I think Democine is unique in that it doesn't really happen outside of the parties like I'm sure people meet up but the event is the thing and that's kind of unique and that's really cool to see and especially yesterday whenYou know, you're in the big hall during the smallest demos and then year 500 jaws hit the floor at the same time as somebody pulls out a 16-byte demo.speaker-1

Yes, I saw that thing. That was pretty incredible. I think the description for that demo was longer or took more space than the demo itself. that was insane. The motto of this year's revision is the power within. To you, what does that slogan mean in the context of the demo scene?speaker-2

wow.within the power within our capabilities. think it has a lot to do with the creativity of the mind, the creativity of the people. We don't like generative AI kind of stuff. Amen. Let us be creative. Let us put focus on that. Yeah, that's the magic, right? Like the whole thing about overcoming...Seemingly impossible hurdles just because you choose to sit down and apply yourself and then make something beautiful. That's the purpose of art, ultimately, and in the best case to say something and to state something.speaker-1

Yeah, Subi during the Meteorix on Friday, he said that in a world where hardware is getting limited and taken over by evil corporations, we will run our applications and demos on what's left. God damn it. So are you competing or making anything for this year's revisions?speaker-2

Yes, we're entering the Fast Competition. Fast Music Competition, yeah. Yeah, yeah, we each have an entry.speaker-1

Fast competition? Both of you? So for listeners and those of us who don't know what fast, I know what, but still like, just bring us up to speed. What is the fast music competition?speaker-2

So you just get restrictions at the party. So on Friday at eight o'clock they told us what the restrictions were. And in this case, they'll flip a coin. So you have 24 hours to make something and they toss a coin and one side is half speed, the other side is double speed. So you have to create something that's good for both.speaker-1

Both scenarios.speaker-2

Yeah, have to mitigate the risk of one outcome being a complete tragedy and the other one being really good. So it's a bit of a balancing game.speaker-1

You have to cater to both audiences or both scenarios. What was your contributions about solving that challenge?speaker-2

Yeahspeaker-2

Well, I wanted to submit an Atari ST tune, but unfortunately I didn't get it ready for the old school competition, I thought, well, let's just fix this in the fast competition. Don't put anything melodic in, just make some noises and then it will probably be fine. But we'll see.speaker-1

And the Fast Musicobospeaker-2

I think it's at four o'clock or something like that.speaker-1

Yeah, that'll be and you got it delivered on time Yes, what were you from an artsy how did you go about solving that?speaker-2

Yeah, yeah. Just.speaker-2

I'm not that great of a programmer, but I figured that if I go for something ambient, mid-tempo, you can...structure the drums in such a way that if it's played double the speed it kind of turns into drum and bass and if you play half the speed it becomes like a droning kind of thing. So I went that direction and just made a bunch of patches on this little guitar pedal that's running like Blackfin Linux. It's the one thing that I can do, you know, so I figured I'd try that and it's still not easy but yeah.speaker-1

You are a musician you said?speaker-2

I think that's again a charitable term for it, but I play a guitar in a metal band called Once Mortals. Once Mortals.speaker-1

Okay, yeah. I'm looking forward to hearing the fast music. And like, there was a limitation as well. Was it like 30 seconds only?speaker-2

Yeah, that's right. You have to fit everything in 30 seconds maximum. So, yeah.speaker-1

because previous years I think it's been two minutes but it might be because of the change this year.speaker-2

Exactly, 15 seconds or 2 minutes.speaker-1

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see. Yeah, we need to go back in time as well. think we would like to know a bit of how you got started in the scene. But before that, I think we need a bit of a music break, DJ Demon. Don't you agree?speaker-0

Absolutely, what do we do there?speaker-1

I want to hear Mick Rippon with compromise celebration. Are you able to move that one bit up?speaker-0

This magic works. asked Click and drag and never f***. Wow. Click and drag. Night is come. Calling for it.speaker-1

Click and drag! New functionality here!Alright, stay tuned and we'll be back with Fibonacci and Nebula soon.speaker-3

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youspeaker-0

nice artistry going on here with the modern graphics you should really see this one but we got better stuff to do right now we're having an interviewspeaker-1

Yes, are. We're in the middle of day three from revision 2026 and with us we have Nebula and Fibonacci who have graciously taken their time to talk to us while the modern graphics compo is running in the background. A lot of great artistry and skills going on there. Before the break, we talked a bit abouthow you guys are finding the revisions so far and what you're contributing to the demo scene this year. However, we want to talk about how you got into the scene, like how did you get started. We'll start with you, Nebby.speaker-2

Yes, so a colleague of mine said let's go to Breakpoint, it's the party that was before Revision. It's a really big party and he used to go in the 90s. So I started, I first went with him I think in 2003 or 2004 and I was hooked.the stuff that's being done with the C64 and I was like my god this is great they do tricks it's incredible I had just arranged myself an Amiga I'm a late-seener so to say and so I was blown away that they did these tricks with the C64speaker-1

Is this even possible?speaker-1

What about your first computer? Was that a 64?speaker-2

I had boring machines back in the day. I had an MSX to play with and then a PC, just an MS-DOS machine. So I knew the existence of the other machines. I used MIDI within the music school back then when I was teaching, when I taught how to play keyboard. And later on I had some friends with an Amiga, but I never...speaker-1

yeah.speaker-1

regular one.speaker-2

owned something like that so... past 2000 I was like let's play with these machines and do good stuffspeaker-1

Right. Peace.speaker-1

That's when it kind of took off for the interest like. What about you Fibonacci? How did you get started and get hooked into the demo scene?speaker-2

Well, I mean, I've been fascinated for a little while, but it's not been something that I've had immediate access to. While was in engineering school, was a brief talk about it. And that was the first time that I was introduced to it. And by that time, I was already bril on the way to what was possible. What year are we in then? I think we're talking 2013. I am really late. mean, Amiga came out when I was like negative seven years old.Yeah, but after that I was never able to get my hooks into the scene and it was only after I got to know Nebula, who's actually had gone to some parties and had some submissions of his own, that one day he just said like, hey man, let's one day go to a demo party. I'm like, yeah, hell yeah, let's go.speaker-1

So how did you guys meet initially? Was it through a demo party or? Okay, professionally, okay. And your first computer then?speaker-2

professionally.speaker-2

So technically a tulip. What's a tulip? It's a Dutch or PC company. IBM compatible. But I only played video games on there that my dad loaded in and then I was entertained for like an hour or so. I never really interacted with the computer much until like much much later.speaker-1

Yeah.speaker-1

I see. yeah, I don't know, like people get introduced at different times and different levels. And I mean, it's all good. It's interesting to because most of the people we've talked to have been here since like the 80s and 90s. So it's really good to get also the kind of like fresher eyes on the scene and like how they perceive it. Because like some of them haveas the D-Fox and the guy from Racer in 1911 this morning and Mourning Glory were talking about that there was a lot of, the demo scene was a lot different back in the 80s and 90s.speaker-2

I imagine it was very rough around the edges. mean, many computer subgenres are kind of like that. I know, for example, the hacker space, can be very kind of standoffish. Elitist. Yeah, exactly. And here it's completely the opposite, I find. I mean, every single person has been super nice to me and I've been forthcoming like, hey, man, I'm a total noob. I'm just here to learn.And people are super receptive to that and cool man, like it's really refreshing.speaker-1

It is. I agree. I echo that sentiment. They are very helpful and welcoming. I think that if you just read up on the demo scenes, you get the exact opposite feeling.speaker-2

Yeah, because it's all enthusiasts, right? Like everyone's here because they have a passion for computing. And so if they see a young kid coming by that's really interested and has done a little bit of like the bare minimum to read into it, you get a big hug and like a welcome to the scene and like nobody will be here or whatever. Like super, super cool people, man.speaker-1

Yeah, I like that approach. they also, at the info desk, you actually have stickers that you can put on. So if you accept a hug or ask first before a hug or not a number or a red sticker, basically, it does not compute. No, don't touch me. But I like, yeah, it's very heartwarming in a way that you don't usually think about when you talk about the computer space.Anyway, let's see whatspeaker-2

Yeah, it's got kind of a negative connotation.speaker-1

So I want to hear about the tools and setups you use. Something that we sometimes ask people that like create stuff like what tools are you using? What's your setup, Nebula?speaker-2

I don't have one set up. I just bring the stuff for the occasion. So I was planning on doing something on the Atari ST. So I brought my ST, but it's still in the car because I brought my Mr. FPGA. I tested it with if the sound chip is representable and I thought it's really acceptable.speaker-1

yeah.speaker-2

It doesn't take too much space, we're on a pretty small table, essentially meant for laptop usage. So fortunately I brought my mister, so yeah, we were late at the table, so we didn't have much choice, but it's fine. So I got also a mister, I was not fortunate enough to be young enough to be able to, or least old enough to be able to...speaker-1

What about you, if you're...speaker-2

I've been living in a time where I was interested in computers and vintage hardware was accessible and available for an okay price. And so the Mister really kind of fills that gap and you don't just get one system, you get like the whole bunch. So I put a bunch of cores on there and took it with me and I'm running that into a capture card onto my Surface, which is running Linux.And yeah, was planning to use that for capture. And then I figured, yeah, I'll just go to revision and then learn how to use the tracker properly and everything. the environment is not necessarily conducive to high levels of focus to that degree. So I figured I brought my Empress Zoya as a backup. So I made my music on that.speaker-1

Okay, so for the people who don't know the MISTER, that's the FPGA that emulates a vast number of systems. You can just put cores in there and it makes them pretty...speaker-2

That's Accurately? Yeah, mean, it's not even ambulation, don't think. Exactly. Yeah, the FPGA has become so large nowadays that the entire systems just fit on it, which is insane.speaker-1

It's hardware.speaker-1

I know people use it for like, you can actually, can you use, like if I have a Sega Mega Drive game, I think I can use the Mister to just plug it into that thing.speaker-2

I know, it doesn't have a physical connector, so it re-drums. Maybe there are add-ons, but...speaker-1

Okay, it might be something that uses the mister, like an external product that uses the mister as a connecting...speaker-2

I know that there are FPGA solutions that do read ROMs, but the default development port used for the Mister is not able to do so. The DE-10 Nano does have the extension where you're able to do the serial native accessory connector. So you're able to use vintage controllers on it the same way, which is really cool.speaker-1

Okay.speaker-1

They map one to one, right? So you don't have tospeaker-2

Exactly. For all intents and purposes, it's the real analog thing. There's no conversion or anything.speaker-1

Yeah, that's very... yeah, so excellent. Yeah, first time I saw... well, the one mister I'm talking about where you can actually plug in games and like you had your old games but your original console broke, you could just play it again. It's just fantastic. So, FPGA is magic. Digital wizardry indeed. So, I think you mentioned it a bit, but we'll still...What do you find so fascinating about the scene? What makes you come back, Nebula?speaker-2

It's so inspiring. When I see all these entries I get ideas to make new stuff. It's so inspiring that I want to create stuff. That makes me want to come back. And it's also very nice if your entry is up on the big screen or on the big speakers.speaker-1

Yes. Do you limit yourself to music or other things as well?speaker-2

I devil in, I try other things as well, mainly music, that's what I'm comfortable with. I do the video editing for my band as well, so we do everything ourselves. So I do VFX for our band in the music videos and editing and that kind of stuff. So that's kind of where I get my kicks visually. then, yeah, the rest is really music though.speaker-1

Yeah. Yes. What about you?speaker-1

You also mentioned it, but I'll just ask again, what kind of inspires you in the demo scene, what makes you come back here?speaker-2

man, it's like the Olympics for people with really large brains, right? I mean, you see people do stuff that should by no right be possible and that is inspiring that you can just get that good at something.speaker-1

that's well put man.speaker-1

I couldn't have put it better myself. Big brain Olympics. I like that a lot. In that regard, you seen anything here that you liked? Something that stood out to you?speaker-2

Yeah, so Fibonacci already mentioned the 60k, the 60 bytes entry. That was fabulous. Man. You have to go over the entries again, there's so many good entries. Yeah, there was the one with the dancing girl with the particle physics on the... It was a reference to space. What's it called again? man.speaker-1

I recall the dancing ghosts from the 4K intro.speaker-2

Yeah, that was incredible. see it? right? Duo, yeah.speaker-1

Just the motion.You see like kind of like a silk figure and then it suddenly moves its arms and starts dancing. To me that was wow, insane. And yeah, there's a lot of insane stuff going on right now. It's the modern graphics compo and behind us or in front of us here there's a lot of incredible talent on display with people creating the most magnificent pictures with everything from drawing to 3D graphics.rendered and yeah everything you can imagine there's no limit on what you can use to create but I forget if there's any theme or if it's just the model the power within model that they're using but yeah that's that's what's up on the screen right now have you do you have any plans for going to other demo parties this yearspeaker-2

I might attend Evoque and maybe Outline. Outline is in the Netherlands, Evoque is in Cologne.speaker-1

Are you going together then?speaker-2

I don't know, I might, but I've also heard somebody talk about a lovely conference in Scandinavia where somebody that made another incredible demo which I neglected to mention earlier will show the second part. okay. that was yours.speaker-1

Thanks. There are quite the amount of demo parties in Sweden. think Bird is the oldest one, right, GGD-man?speaker-0

Yeah, I think so. Not entirely shorter. yeah, I would want you to say yes. Yeah.speaker-1

And then there's the... I forget what's the... Fjeldata, mountain data basically. And Edison of course, which we are going to this summer.speaker-0

Yeah, we're going to organize it as well.speaker-1

Yeah, so you really like saying that we're gonna organize it for some reason, but yeahspeaker-0

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the same story. I'm kinda in a rut here.speaker-1

That's true. Thanks so much for your time here in the middle of the modern graphics compo. People asked you, told me earlier that you wanted to clap and feel free to clap even though if you have a mic. So you can't really hear it. Well, you can hear it on this mic, but I don't think your is more isolated, so it's fine. But thanks so much for taking your precious time talking to us.speaker-2

I would miss it.speaker-1

We asked both of you if you have a favorite tune and what about you Fibonacci? What was your request?speaker-2

Second stage boss by an artist which name is almost pronounceable by humans.speaker-1

Yeah, it's a letter soup of strings and words. But we'll challenge DD Demon to announce that. And what about you, Nebula?speaker-2

I chose Rainbow Dash from Xize to Dutch you guys that I met at Outline. It's an incredible track.speaker-1

yeah, Scythe, we love him so, so much. And we'll play Rainbow Dash by Radix, Sylo and Scythe first. And again, thank you so much, both of you, for talking to us and enjoy Resto.speaker-2

Thanks for having us, have a good one man. And everyone listen.speaker-1

Thanks.speaker-0

youspeaker-0

Well, that was a very nice interview if you ask me. We also had a little bit of a crack here in the middle so to speak. It was Catad and Lost Ninja 2 Central Park. It's covered by Catad. Do you remember that game? Have you played it? Lost Ninja 2.speaker-1

Okay.Yes, I have played it and I hate itspeaker-0

Yeah, I know. Super good graphics, super cool game, but so hard and it's horrible really.speaker-1

The premise is interesting. The music is good, but the execution of the gameplay mechanics is just horrible. You have to, in order to pick up things, you can't just walk over them. I think you have to press the button on the joystick and hold down. But one that we can't forget, of course, is that the boat...speaker-0

This isspeaker-1

River crossingspeaker-0

Yeah, exactly. That's the one that always kinda... That's where you die and you try and you try, you get back there and you... You have to jump on a boat or some kinda load-like stuff. And if you miss it, you fall into the water and do that three times and it's game over.speaker-1

whole game is isometric. Meaning that you would think when you hold up the guy goes either upward to the right or something. But no, that's not usually how it is. You have to join the joystick down and left, down and left in directions that the joystick doesn't provide you.speaker-0

Nah, exactly. mean, there were digital joysticks back in the day. Analog ones could be in the middle there, but when it came to digital joysticks, they were always in one out of four directions. Up, down, right, left.speaker-1

And of course, Last Ninja figured out that, we're going to have all roads tilting at an angle. So meaning that if you want to go down, you have to like, yes, go straight a certain distance and then go down and straight again and down and straight again. And that presents a problem when you want to jump over that river crossing. Angry Video Game Nerd did a video of Last Ninja. I bet you've seen it.speaker-0

Yeah, I actually have. He is more angry about stuff than I am.speaker-1

But he tries many times and still can't get it. He even hits the boat perfectly. So there's a river and there's a boat passing and you have to jump exactly on the boat. And even if you hit it exactly where you think you would need to hit it, you still fall through and then you are set back God knows where.speaker-0

Yeah, I know. And it's kind of like you can hit the boat correctly, but then you have to jump again into the other side. And that is also pretty error prone, which means that you played it a bazillion times, you jumped right and then you fall over. It's like, thank you very much.speaker-1

Then you lose all your lives and you have to start the game all over again because there are no save states and no passwords.speaker-0

No, it's supposed to keep you hiring the gaming console or computer for as long as possible to just fleece you out of your money.speaker-1

back in the day where you had to hire games or rent games. yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember renting a Nintendo and some games. We'll fire off last Ninja II in Central Park and after that it's...speaker-0

Yeah, or the whole console actuallyspeaker-0

Nope, we just did that. we did? Yeah. f***.speaker-1

sorry, okay, yes I see the checkmark now. Now is Fibonacci's requested song. talked to Nebula and Fibonacci just a couple of minutes ago and they had some requested tunes and this one you will have to pronounce.speaker-0

Oh this is going to sound awful. Let's try. stage, boss by 0x415. What's that? 4015. Yeah, what's that? YEDH Media SFOY. I'm giving up on this. I'm giving up on this. Nobody want to hear me. This sounds like a serial number or something.speaker-1

40-50.speaker-1

But it's second stage boss by let's call it just 0-40-50.speaker-0

Absolutely.speaker-0

All right, they're talking and you are in the background we play some more music here so we They are reporting what's happeningspeaker-3

soon hopefully now launch into the Cula Rastaspeaker-3

3.30 we will start with the next big compa block one half hour earlier please let all of your friends know I know lot of people are outside right now tell your friends tell your family the next big compa block is starting half an hour early 3.30 sharp be here or be somewhere elsespeaker-0

Absolutelyspeaker-0

We can't listen to that, this on radio right now. So we're going on with the next song, it's Proton and Contest Demo Tune 3.speaker-3

Yeah.speaker-0

Yeah, the 3D printing contest is on here, right?speaker-1

They are showing what people have made for the Cooler Master Cube 540, which is the cabinet you can win, but no computer hardware. Just a case.speaker-0

Yeah, things are kind of boring.speaker-1

I mean you could one you the cabinet the stick for the cabinet is that they it has holes. Yeah, can attach various things Looks like people are attaching holders and wheels I see a revision logo that was attached to the front as well But I mean that the cabinet looks cool and all but it doesn't look really silent like if it has a lot of holes and you would havespeaker-0

To it, Yarra. To it.speaker-1

no dampening for sound.speaker-2

Hmm.speaker-1

But it's a cool makers cabinet for sure, even though it's perhaps a bit basic. It has two handles on top so you can easily grab it and bring it to your next LAN party or demo party.speaker-0

That's not a bad idea at all. I mean, just cut a big, I mean, doesn't take a lot of space and stuff.speaker-1

People are bringing bigger computers than that to revision here. saw somebody who had a big setup going on with, I think it was two monitors or something. Speaking of, we actually have three, but they are not that big of course.speaker-0

Now it's kind of compact, so it works pretty well.speaker-1

Oh, now it showcases, it was some kind of monitor that was attached to the front of the case. I'm not sure that monitor itself was 3D printed. I may be wrong, maybe they added just an LCD panel or a LED panel in front to a 3D printed case. You can see it there.speaker-0

Yeah, okay, nice, and it's animated and it's...speaker-1

the revision logo.speaker-0

What's that supposed to be? A space station or something? Just around whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, uh... Ah, okay. So it's a self-reference.speaker-1

It's the revision logo.That's what it's supposed to be. case is white. think you might get it in different colors. Did you see the cabinet down at the toilet tunnel?speaker-0

Yeah, yeah, Yes?speaker-1

You did? Okay. Did you try to build something? They had what looked like Lego bricks that you could attach and create patterns to the thing.speaker-0

Nope, I did not.speaker-0

It's 3 o'clock here in Saarbrucken, Germany and we have one more hour to go.speaker-1

Yes, we have. And then as Dojo announced earlier, there's a cubic metric ton of, or crap ton of the entries this year. So they had to move up the compost.speaker-0

And that's a very sweet problem to have. It is.speaker-1

It is. Is that a clothes hanger or that looks like a hose connector part? I'm not sure. Perhaps in case you need to water cool the system.speaker-0

What?speaker-0

Yeah, okay.